How epigenetics works (Introduction)

by David Turell , Saturday, January 12, 2013, 00:20 (4335 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: Bravo. Finally seeing my point. of course, the complexity has to be at the very beginning or you can't get here from there.
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> dhw: Not "finally", David. This has always been one of the prime reasons why I am an agnostic and not an atheist.
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> dhw;You are repeating part of my post of 09 January at 19.21: "you yourself have made the point ... from the survival of bacteria to the non-necessity of the human brain ... that evolution did not REQUIRE innovation". Your questions concerning the human brain can be applied to EVERY innovation, since earlier forms of life have survived without legs, wings, eyes etc. Should we say that evolution is spidercentric, because spiders' webs were not required,-My point is finer than as you interpret it. My point is that the new complexities are never required, but they happen anyway. There is no reason for bacteria to become multicellular. They are very successful. But we can see that multicellularity leads to sexuality, and sexual reproduction allows for much more mixing of DNA, and more opportunities for innovation and complexity. I think that these observations imply a drive for complexity from the beginning. Why God chose to advance through evolution is unknown to us. But that complexification leads to the bush like evolutionary result, and not Darwin's tree (as in his notebook).-It is as if God said let's throw everything at the fan and see where it lands, but since the process ended up with consciousness, obviously a very desirable goal, I must conclude that this shotgun approach was pre-ordained or guided to this desired result.-My point about complexity at the very beginning of life is that the earliest cells had to be complex or they couldn't really BE Alive. Many scientists are coming to that realization and there have been new discussions of the definition of life to take that into account. Chance cannot create that complexity. Therefore, God did it. Therefore there is a God. From my viewpoint it is a simple set of reasonable steps to that conclusion.