How God works (Introduction)

by Balance_Maintained @, U.S.A., Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 01:05 (4332 days ago) @ dhw

I am rather tired of going round and round on this. You see my views as unreasonable and irrational because they are based on faith, which to me, is based on evidence. -I see your view of the potential for pain as a complete negative just as irrational and unreasonable. Pain serves an important purpose. It teaches us lessons we were too stupid to learn from the wisdom of others. -Mom: Don't the stove.-Kid touches the stove and get's burned.-Kid: OWWWWWWWWW it hurts it hurts-Mom: I told you not to do it, maybe now you will learn. -
You are blaming mom for heating up the stove that cooks your food and saying that it is her fault you got burned. If you were the child in that conversation your next line would be "Mom why did you heat the stove up causing me to get burned?! You are so mean! You must not love me nor care about be, nor even know how to cook because I got burned on your stove when I did what you told me not to do!"-
I am not trying to be sarcastic or dismissive here, but this is truly how the argument about a world without pain comes across to me. -Mom: "When you are older and wiser, I will teach you how to cook, and you will not get burned any more because you know how to cook." -Kid: "Why didn't you just teach me to cook before so that it would burn me so that I wouldn't get hurt."-Mom: "I was trying to teach you child, but you refused to listen and did what you wanted to do. So, you got burned. When you are ready to listen, I will be here to teach you."-Kid: "But the stove will still be hot!! It will still be possible for me to get burned."-Mom gets exhasperated: "Your point? Perhaps you would like cold meals or wrinkled clothing? Perhaps you would like to stay up all night or eat sweets for every meal without getting sick? Perhaps you would like to hold your breath for a week and not suffocate...."-
I could go on and on with the irrationality of complaining that the possibility of pain should not exist.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.


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