How epigenetics works (Introduction)
David: It is obvious to me that your concept of God is a limited God. He had to work with what He had after He created or invented the universe. The universe had to evolve itself under His rules. The same thing seems to apply to the Earth. It had to drift its continents, fix its Moon, develop its CO2-rock cycle, scatter around enough nutrients for the early one-celled guys, as the eco-systems developed. > > I find that a reasonable approach, but that does away with an all-powerful, all knowing, omnipotent, total controller of a 'god'. Why do you deny religions' version of God? > > Since I deny myself the privilege of making up the rules about God's personality and powers, I really want to hear yours.-You are talking about the three "O's", omnipotence, omnipresence, and omniscience. -It is not so much a limitation of God's power or abilities. He may or may not be limited in what he can do. I don't know for certain and the bible actually doesn't go into whether or not he has limitations on his power, though I would assume that there are in fact limitations, even if they are so far beyond our comprehension that it would be meaningless for us to consider them as limitations. -Who knows the system better than it's designer and architect? When a person designs a system, right down to the molecular or quantum structure of each particle, that person holds great predictive power over what will happen. However, that does not mean that the system can not surprise them, or do unexpected things. My view of god is that he is wise and knowledgeable beyond what we can comprehend, fully knowing things that we do not know enough about to even as questions about them. However, there is a difference in saying that the system's architect knows everything about the system and saying that the system's architect knows everything there is to know.-I am not as certain on the subject of Omnipresence. On one hand, there is the concept that "God" entails all of the energy of the universe come sentient, so that all things would by necessity be part of him. On the other, there are numerous references throughout the scriptures of every religion that see limitations of form put on God. I do not know which is correct, and I can only speculate. - As for god being limited in the sense of your first paragraph, I think you misunderstand. What I am talking about is limitations of the system, not of the designer. You could build a supercomputer, and it would still be subject to the very laws of physics that allow it to work in the first place. A rule that enables something to happen, by its very nature, also implies a limitation. There is ALWAYS a balance. What I was talking about in my previous post was that he designed the system, knew the needs and requirements of the system, and built the necessary requirements into the system, as any good designer would.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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dhw,
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dhw,
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