Shedding Light On How Cells Communicate (Introduction)

by dhw, Tuesday, November 20, 2012, 12:16 (4388 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: The fact that we are self-aware is certainly of tremendous significance (to us), but it does not mean that Nature is aware of us, let alone that it consciously cares about us. The fact that evolution arrived at us does not mean that the forces which drive evolution ... perhaps your unknown mechanism in DNA or my "intelligent cell", plus the environment ... are aware of us or consciously care about us. That is what I mean by impersonal.-DAVID: Whatever you want to call Nature, an inorganic universe is interconnected by a quantum network. You are ignoring the fact that consciousness is required for quantum research. I think we have a strong inference that the universal quantum network is conscious and our brain has learned to use it. Our consciousness is not emergent. Only the methodological materialists in science and the atheists believe that it is.-The fact that consciousness is required for any kind of research does not mean that what is being researched is conscious. Of course you may be right that first cause energy/the universal quantum network/a UI or whatever name we care to give it is conscious and self-conscious, and that consciousness does not emerge from the physical brain but uses the brain as its receiver and transmitter. But nobody knows. "Inferences" are as strong as believers and non-believers consider them to be, and that is precisely what this whole debate is about.