Shedding Light On How Cells Communicate (Introduction)
I'm not sure our universe is a hologram...You are working at a more mystical level than I am. As you know I look at solid science and try to figure out what that means in terms of God. -I think I am considering the scientific view of the possibility that one of the qualities of the ATI/God, energetically, is holographic. When you get into QP do you not leave "solid" science behind and step into the mystical? Maybe the only difference between the mystical and science is science focusing on the mystical qualities of What Is, just in their own scientific way. Like looking for a back door when their is already a front door. Science, having their own philosophy, doesn't take doors that have any connection with the mystics - which I completely understand and am glad it is so. For the moment, I will leave the question open and ask maybe that you do more scientific research on the holographic nature of the universe and see if there might be something more to discuss "scientifically?" Or, I can research myself to bring more science in that area to the table. So, on to other questions and considerations: ->With my religious background I start and stop with one God, no trinity. I know that God is a person like no other person, if one can even approach the concept at that level.-Why do you call God a person (speaking of solid science)? When I think of the word person I think human. Even if God is like no other, in what way is God a person? Just curious. Of course I thought this way myself when I was religious, I pictured God the way I had been taught to see "him."->So I best conceive of Him as a universal mind, an organized bundle of energy with supreme self-aware consciousness.-Why does God have to be a self-aware consciousness person as if SAC is some kind of great feat just because humans have achieved it? What if, self-aware consciousness, as a "quality," is minuscule within the WHOLE of what God is? You say the word "supreme self-aware consciousness" as if this quality of SAC is the most greatest aspect there can possibly be within ATI. In my humble peon SAC, it doesn't seem so great just because we humans have it. It seems to me, the very "quality" of the energetic fabric of ATI, that has been and is still able to continuously create ATI, even as we humans only know it, and observe it's movement and becoming, as we watch, seems a far more greater quality than SAC. Sure, as SAC beings, we have been able to create from the created and can see within much of the created just what specific aspects may be (call it what we like: atom/molecule/cell/etc). But, we have yet even to comprehend this living fabric and it's miraculous quality, that even if we understood it just a bit, we, at this point in our SAC, could be very dangerous. The movie 'The Sphere' comes to mind. > I believe we have evolved beyond chimps and apes when there was no reason for that evolution. Chimps and apes have done just fine without evolving. We startd out as tree climbers, all even with the others. There is no logical reason, according to the theories of evolution, for our pushing forward into our current position. Over 20 million years ago a monkey had a vertebral change on the way to upright posture. Something pushed that! For it went on to partial tree climbing and partial walking and at the same time the unprecedented growth of our brain from 1/4 th its size (a la chimps) in 6-8 million years. We had to learn to use that brain, to develop language, with a brain that appears to have a built-in syntax system. All languages follow the same patterns. All of this cannot occur by chance mutation. I can only conceive it as guided, and that implies a 'guider', or a guiding program in DNA. And now we study ourselves and wonder. This cannot come from nothing. -I can understand why you would assume a God like person that interferes with evolution, from the view you are expressing above. But, in some way, you remind me of the scientist who wants to create a door where there is none. I think there is information "out there" you are not considering when it comes to this particular problem in evolution of which I have asked, here, for us to consider the possibility - of so called "gods" tinkering with evolution. But, like the true scientist that you are, you probably have not looked very far into that information since you had rather create your own door. Which, I, in no way would be critical of, because you may just find this very information, just by your own rules.-[EDITED]
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