Shedding Light On How Cells Communicate (Introduction)

by BBella , Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 06:20 (4395 days ago) @ dhw

[dhw] I'm thinking now of the body (a community of billions of cells) as a macrocosm. The individual cells (microcosms) are all interconnected and function intelligently, but are they conscious of themselves in the way we are?
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> BBella: If light carries the information in the cell and functions as the messenger between the cells, then, it would seem to me, that it's not the cell that is intelligent but the light moving between the cells that's intelligent. So, in a sense, it would seem (seems like I've said something similar to this before in this forum), consciousness is the byproduct of the intelligence gathering within the cells, not the creator of it. Yet, once consciousness was created it holographically, in a sense, became a factor within creation itself. And, being light as well, consciousness continues to be drawn where it would be the most productive. So, is the individual cell conscious of itself in the way we are? I would say no, but possibly each cell, because of the light communicating between all cells within a body, holds all the information of consciousness within each cell. Possibly.
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Sorry dhw, not sure how I missed your post above. I may have opened it but didn't have the chance to read it so assumed when I came back that I had.-> There are so many difficult questions here, and of course none of us know the answers. -I agree none of us have the answers about what we are discussing here, but I do think the answers are out there and there are scientist working on discovering more about the biophoton and how the information it carries works within the cell.->Is the light generated by the cells, or does it have an independent existence (essential if we are to believe in the authenticity of NDEs)? -I think information from light energy is used by the cell and then the cell releases what it doesn't need which then dissipates into the either. So maybe the biophoton scientist see being dispersed from the cell they assume is the cell generating these biophotons. That's just my take.->Information in itself is of no use until it's processed and applied, and so if light is the messenger carrying information, what does the processing and applying? -Possibly, the information or building blocks of life that have already created it's purpose within the cell processes the light info it needs and applies the information it has taken from the full "bank" of light that it's always afforded. I'm not sure and they are probably not sure either, but is why they are observing. They have to observe the process from the outside so I assume they are guessing at this point, just as I am guessing (altho without actually observing, just using a mental picture and logic). ->Could it not be that cells and light constitute different forms of intelligence? -The only way I can think to answer your question is how I imagine what I have gathered so far about the biophoton and how I imagine what I have thought about myself, and that's using numbers. It seems to me that light particle/waves carry an infinite amount of information which I will call numbers and cells are certain of these numbers that have gathered into certain spaces in time which built the cell, including the cell wall. So when more light filters thru the created cell, the cell gathers from the light whatever numbers (information) it is in need of at the time to continue it's processes/life/purpose. So I would think the answer is yes, that they are different forms of intelligence, only in the sense that the formed cell is certain numbers and not the formless infinite numbers of the light energy, but the formed cell does have access to the infinite numbers at all times. Which is what the discussion is about that I hope this all eventually leads to. ->To what extent can we call intelligence consciousness, -For me, and I know this isn't the way David sees it, I believe consciousness is a by product of the infinite All That Is. Consciousness, because it has evolved, is also now one aspect or a part of the Infinite ATI in a holographic sense. I think the energy/light/makeup of the ATI is a much greater thing (for lack of a better word) than consciousness can ever comprehend, so much so, that the words consciousness and intelligence cannot even begin to express just what IT is. Which is why the word God could have fit more appropriately, if we hadn't already put God in a box so to speak. ->and to what extent is consciousness self-conscious? Where are the borderlines?-I think consciousness is what humans had before they became self aware or self conscious. We can look about us and see what appears as consciousness, because we have evolved past it. But, as of yet, we do not see self awareness in any other species so we are the top of the line (because we are self aware) in all that we know to be (altho that remains to be seen). So I assume that the borderline between conscious and self conscious is the difference between the human species and other species.