Shedding Light On How Cells Communicate (Introduction)

by dhw, Tuesday, November 13, 2012, 20:00 (4394 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: It is hard for me to imagine that we have evolved beyond what existed before us.
 
dhw: Then you have clearly missed the point of my analogy. Since you believe in evolution, you already agree that we have evolved immeasurably "beyond what existed before us". 
 
DAVID: I was referring to the issue of conscousness. Before us was inorganic dirt and consciousness. We evolved to consciousness, and as Tony has noted that evolution was a necessary method as he rightly views it.-Perhaps you meant that before us was inorganic dirt and unselfconsciousness, and that is the whole point. We evolved far, far beyond what was before us. I don't know about evolution being the "necessary" method ... the main thing is that we agree evolution WAS the method, and if we were able to evolve from unselfconscious matter to unselfconscious (but "intelligent") organisms to the selfconsciousness we have today, why by the same token should not those same unselfconscious (but "intelligent") organisms have evolved from unselfconscious (but "intelligent") energy? After all, it was you who pointed out that matter is merely another form of energy.

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