BBella\'s Universe (Introduction)
“Peace of mind†can only come, I think, if you’re at ease with yourself and with the world around you.
This is true, which is why, until after my illness, I never really had peace. I only thought I did at times during my Christian life because peace is what you have with your God when your soul has been diverted from hell.
A lot of people do get that peace from religion, and maybe their God is just another name for your “will of the allâ€.
Well, I've looked at life from both sides now (yes, I do know that's a song line) and my personal opinion gained from my experience with both Christianity's God and the will of the all, is I can say for sure they are as far apart as the east is from the west. The only thing they may possibly have in common is a name, God. In my personal life I hesitate to call, ATI, God, for this very reason. But when I am speaking with those who believe in Christianity's God, I will use the term God. I don't like to offend anyone or argue so I try and stay low key and go with the flow of the conversation.
No attributes needed, no stories, but just a universal energy to which we can relate. I vaguely remember a saying along the lines: “If you go with the flow, the flow will go with you.â€
Don't know where that saying comes from but I do use it at times as well.
David has mentioned how his second book poured out of him, although initially he only had a rough outline in his head. The rough outline was in the conscious mind, but the book was in the subconscious, and the act of writing provided the contact between the two.
I've written poetry since my illness as well as fiction stories and I rarely start with anything but a word or one scene in my mind and it flows from there. I also paint paintings and create with different kinds of metals and wire, and it all, many times, just starts out with an intention to create. Most any creative undertaking seems to take on a life of it's own. Which, brings me back to the discussion, we are creative matter. We are all a part of a constant motion that never ends. All we need is a tiny seed of thought and the next thing we know we have a new creation. We, as a species, are just beginning to glimpse our own creative nature that is no different than the ATI.
That is certainly my own experience, and maybe it offers a parallel to your situation. Your real self may have been deep in your subconscious, but it took a terrible illness for you to gain access to it. The subconscious may be the part of us that is linked to the “will of the allâ€, and when we create – in your case your personality, in David’s case his book – we actually become aware of things inside ourselves of which we hadn’t been aware before.
I agree. And many times it does take some kind of catastrophic situation to cause us to stop (thinking and believing) and quietly observe ourselves and ATI from a place of the unknown (which is where most agnostics live). From this "SLOW MOTION" perspective it's easier to "catch" the creative force of the ATI in the act, and recognize that "it" is ourselves. We, too, are the ATI.
I’m not sure where this actually takes us, but I have a feeling that we’re establishing a lot of common ground!
My first intention by my reply to Tony was to clarify and distinguish the difference between the God of the sacred books and the ATI (from my perspective). Because for me, they get mixed up as the same thing in any discussion that brings in the Bible or sacred books. So my first intention was to give my thoughts on how they are not alike but completely different in kind. On that matter, thinking or believing that they are the same takes a person down a long and winding path of more knowledge but less Truth. Not saying it won't eventually end at the same watering hole though (at some point, now or later).
Then my second intention was to express how I view the ATI as a creative force that we humans are just beginning to, not only get a glimpse of, but on the brink of understanding our own abilities as creators. Not for personal gain or benefits (that revelation has been known by many for a long time), but for the evolution of our species. We are, from my view, hurtling that way and nothing can stop us. We, as the ATI, consciously or subconsciously, desire it to be so, altho we have no idea how to get there. And just as with my illness, the price we have to pay may not seem worth it as society lives the pain of what it will take. But in the end (not an actual end since there is no end), it will be worth it all. For many, we can already choose to relish in this truth already, that life and pain is worth it. Just looking into the eyes of our loved ones always makes it worth being here.
Complete thread:
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dhw,
2011-11-29, 17:33
- BBella\'s Universe -
David Turell,
2011-11-29, 17:57
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-29, 22:53
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-11-30, 00:51
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xeno6696,
2011-11-30, 03:31
- BBella\'s Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-30, 04:28
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-29, 22:53
- BBella\'s Universe - BBella, 2011-11-30, 09:03
- BBella\'s Universe - BBella, 2011-11-30, 09:29
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-11-30, 09:36
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-11-30, 15:12
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-11-30, 19:21
- BBella\'s Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-30, 19:54
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-12-01, 00:32
- BBella\'s Universe - BBella, 2011-12-01, 07:02
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BBella,
2011-12-01, 07:03
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:48
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-12-01, 18:57
- BBella\'s Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 03:11
- BBella\'s Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-12-02, 04:07
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-12-02, 05:16
- BBella\'s Universe - dhw, 2011-12-02, 17:31
- BBella\'s Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 03:11
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-12-01, 18:57
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:48
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-12-04, 08:43
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-12-04, 15:55
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-12-05, 20:19
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BBella,
2011-12-06, 08:39
- BBella\'s Universe - dhw, 2011-12-07, 22:54
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-12-06, 08:39
- BBella\'s Universe -
David Turell,
2011-11-29, 17:57