BBella\'s Universe (Introduction)
I've been thinking about the subject below and just wanted to touch back a bit on it:
You say we often get what we want by creating movement in the fabric of matter. I certainly agree that matter is constantly changing, and there’s no doubt that some people have a gift for getting what they want. “Mind over matter†is the phrase that occurs to me. But the opposite often applies as well – the more you want something, the harder you may try and the less likely you may be to get it. That seems to fit in with your own experience when you were ill: you quit, and only then did you find “some peace and less painâ€. Earlier you said the ALL THAT IS creates what we need “as long as our subconscious or other surrounding factors are not interfering with that creation.†I wonder if it isn’t the other way round – that the conscious mind is what puts up the barriers, whereas the subconscious has a more direct path to what we require. That is certainly true of creative work, in which the subconscious nearly always knows far more than the conscious – although the conscious does need to exert a degree of control.
I don't think it was my quitting that brought about what I desired...it was the culmination of everything that happened from the first time I knew what I wanted ,including the quitting, that brought about it and other changes I desired. In the end (altho the process is still on going), I not only created the one desire, I ended up bringing about many desires I had wanted in my life. Before I became ill, I was a very much a staunch Christian. The last thing before my illness I was working and praying about daily was wanting more joy and self-control in my personal life. But, going even further back, before I became a religious person, I was a wild bohemian, hedonist pot smoking child (still have a bit of each in me still..uh, not the pot smoker), and I use to always quote a line from the song, Peace of Mind, by Boston..."All I want is to have my peace of mind." Also, among many other internal problems I wanted relief from, I had developed a fear of "spirits" from an very early age. I had a deep fear of loss that seemed to always bring me into depression annually, even tho I've never really experienced loss...among other types of parts of myself I saw as "defects"(not physical) I wanted changed.
After the illness slowed me down to a crawl, and more or less, taught me to recreate myself from scratch, I ended up with the many changes I had desired most of my life. What I had to grow thru to get those changes - a lot of pain, the disconnect with/loss of my chosen guidance system in life (Christianity), the complete loss of self, etc., was well worth the outcome (I only can say now that I'm on the other side of the pain).
I'm not going to discount coincidence in all this (I'm not saying you think it is), but there are volumes written about the belief of creating ones own destiny, out there (which I know you know). Creation is, well...creation...and it never stops creating. We are part of creation and we have the ability to create within us, to desire something new not yet created, and create it for ourselves from the elements of creation that is provided us within and without. The only limitation to our creating is the lack of imagination and knowledge on our part. The more we know, the more we can imagine and then, the more we can create with the creative matter we have been given and are a part of. As is said, if you can imagine it you can make it happen (altho it will take time).
One more thing: I believe everything depends on the will of the all. Let me try and explain briefly. Just because I wanted peace of mind way back then, it didn't happen way back then right when I wanted it...because creation is not about magic, it is about creating. My desire, which remained consistent most my life, pretty much took most my life to create the building blocks that made it finally happen. The reason being, I believe, is creation happens "within" the will of the all. Everything takes time. All the elements are at work bring about creation, always depending on all factors involved. It's not just my desire that is at work...it is everything that brings it about to make it happen that is involved as well.
Like desiring to build a house. Everything has to be created to bring about my desire. And, what if, secretly, I really want to move to an island and live in a hut and really just wanted the house built because everyone else has one. Suddenly, a lot of things can begin to get in the way of building the house...or it finally gets built and a flood comes and I take the money and move to the island, achieving my true desire. This is what I mean by the will of the all.
Long ago, I imagined what I thought I wanted, but at the time, I had no idea what it was going to take to bring my desires to fruition. The same goes for the subsequent desires after that. I never realized the tall order I was making desiring all those changes within myself...thankfully so, or I would have probably just desired a really far out swimming pool or a hut on an island. As I said, we really should watch what we wish for.
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dhw,
2011-11-29, 17:33
- BBella\'s Universe -
David Turell,
2011-11-29, 17:57
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-29, 22:53
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-11-30, 00:51
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xeno6696,
2011-11-30, 03:31
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-29, 22:53
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BBella,
2011-11-30, 09:36
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dhw,
2011-11-30, 19:21
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BBella,
2011-12-01, 07:03
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dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:48
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-12-01, 18:57
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xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 03:11
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- BBella\'s Universe - dhw, 2011-12-02, 17:31
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xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 03:11
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Balance_Maintained,
2011-12-01, 18:57
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dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:48
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BBella,
2011-12-04, 08:43
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dhw,
2011-12-05, 20:19
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BBella,
2011-12-06, 08:39
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BBella,
2011-12-06, 08:39
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