BBella\'s Universe (Introduction)

by dhw, Wednesday, November 30, 2011, 19:21 (4742 days ago) @ BBella

BBella does not think an alien race created life on Earth, but they might possibly have created humans by splicing their dna with earthly dna. As regards who created them and who created life on Earth before they got here, “I believe all life is created within the ALL THAT IS.”

I have no trouble understanding your last statement, since life could hardly be created outside the ALL THAT IS! But I do have a problem with the rest of it. Why posit the idea of an alien race in the first place? If life was already here on Earth, why couldn’t humans have evolved without the interference of aliens, who presumably also evolved spontaneously? Are myths, ancient civilizations and UFOs the only reason for this speculation?

You don’t like the word “spontaneously”, so I should explain that I’m using it as a contrast to deliberate design. David, for instance, believes that life was created by a conscious designer and did not arise by a process of abiogenesis, or “spontaneous generation”. You use “created” in a manner that also needs clarification: “Just as everything that has been created thus far [...] by/from/within matter, as is, so matter is a continuous changing fabric.” I suspect that David likes the term, but I don’t think you mean “created” in the sense of consciously designed, do you?

You say we often get what we want by creating movement in the fabric of matter. I certainly agree that matter is constantly changing, and there’s no doubt that some people have a gift for getting what they want. “Mind over matter” is the phrase that occurs to me. But the opposite often applies as well – the more you want something, the harder you may try and the less likely you may be to get it. That seems to fit in with your own experience when you were ill: you quit, and only then did you find “some peace and less pain”. Earlier you said the ALL THAT IS creates what we need “as long as our subconscious or other surrounding factors are not interfering with that creation.” I wonder if it isn’t the other way round – that the conscious mind is what puts up the barriers, whereas the subconscious has a more direct path to what we require. That is certainly true of creative work, in which the subconscious nearly always knows far more than the conscious – although the conscious does need to exert a degree of control.

You say that even a rock is sentient, as it responds to its surroundings. Again, we may have a problem of definition here. For me, sentience is impossible without the capability of feeling and perceiving. It’s a form of awareness that stops short of intellectuality. I don’t associate it with erosion by wind and water, or cracking under a hammer. That’s why I find it difficult to imagine rocks, clouds, oceans, stars, the ALL THAT IS as being sentient, and maybe you do too, because you talk of “matter that is so full of potential it seems alive and aware of all things.” The operative word here is obviously “seems”. And since you believe that love depends on living beings like ourselves, and you don’t see the universe as a being with personality, the inference might perhaps be that apart from ourselves and possible aliens, sentience really is confined to living beings, while the rest of the universe remains senseless and impersonal, though ceaselessly changing and “creating” AS IF it were a sentient being. I say “might perhaps be”, because I feel David and Tony breathing down my neck, but if the above interpretation is correct, your ALL THAT IS appears closer to atheism than to David’s Universal Intelligence and to Tony’s God of Love (sorry, guys). You may see it differently, though.

As regards morality, you are hopeful that humanity will one day “find a balance and harmony” that will make moral codes unnecessary. We can agree to disagree on this, but I would add that I can’t conceive of a world in which humans could be happy without problems to solve, and the mixture of good and bad which I like to project onto Tony’s God seems to me also to be essential to our human existence: no light without dark, no beauty without ugliness, no joy without sadness. And so, no harmony without discord. Methinks morality is here to stay!

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P.S for Tony: I agree that there is a connecting web, but the question as always is its nature. And so I don’t agree that your posts are an unrecognizable mash-up – though I enjoyed the oregano with a hint of garlic! All of us struggle to express the inexpressible, and as I said before, it’s only those with fixed ideas who are able to ignore the vast array of unanswerable questions. Once you take them into account, there is NO fixable pattern, so we all end up with some sort of mishmash. As for the journey, I’m not sure if I travel lightest or heaviest, as I hang onto everything but none of it is mine. Road maps are no use to me even literally, as I’m hopeless at reading them; and I don’t drink whisky, as I dislike alcohol. I shall take a few bars of chocolate instead.