BBella\'s Universe (Introduction)
Part 2
I’m thinking here of your own astonishing experiences, in which you somehow came back from a living death into vibrant life, but what did you communicate with? Could you really identify a personality, or a specific reaction? Or was it contact with some unidentifiable but positive, strengthening form of energy?
I didn't really communicate with anything..it was just the opposite - I quit communicating with anything other than what I could see, feel or here directly. In other words, matter. I quit trusting the unknown god of the scriptures and said forget it..that's not working for me. As I said before, I had never explored the inner world of the mind before my illness. I just relied on the teachings of my church and my own discoveries in study. But when all had failed to give me even a bit of peace as to what was going on with me...I just quit. I figured if the god of the scriptures and that which I believed in couldnt give me even a bit of peace, then it wasnt worth my time. After the incident with the inner journey I made to go ahead and die and then inadvertently found some peace and less pain, I embarked on a different path of observation, the inner and outer workings of myself and all that I observe. So still haven't communicated with anything to report, but did get a very odd set of numbers rolling by on a continuous basis as well as noticing synchronous movements I still see. But I think both have more to do with the quality of matter we are all working with. The always potential matter of possibility of the ALL THAT IS.
This I can understand, as Nature itself is living proof of a positive, creative force at work all around and in us; we’re part of it, and there are many cultures that emphasize our oneness with it. But there’s no evidence that all of Nature is sentient, or that there is even life beyond our planet. So is the unity that binds ALL THAT IS in fact only the common bond between all that lives?
I think ALL THAT IS, not just all that lives, is sentient, in the way that everything responds or reacts to it's surroundings. Even a rock does respond to its surroundings, altho time prevents us from observing it.
You say that your hope is not placed in “godsâ€, “but the power of LOVE itself.†Do you think that love has an existence independent of the creatures living on this Earth?
No [I dont]. I do believe love is dependent on beings to create or manifest it from the potential fabric of the ALL THAT IS within themselves. But I do believe their may possibly be benevolent beings beyond the earth that may have and do manifest the power of love as well. There could even be actual beings that watch over us. I don't know. Because with the ALL THAT IS...anything is possible!
Without life here, do you think ALL THAT IS would still be a sentient being?
[Yes.] [But] When I say sentient...I do not mean like a person..or one massive being that is like a very large person. I mean a reactive, responding, changing, matter that is so full of potential it seems alive and aware of all things THAT IS, as we think of the idea of Gaia but in a larger frame of reference as mentioned before.
Yes, I think everything responds to everything, so all is sentient in that sense.
I agree.
I should add that at moments of deep sensitivity, I share the feeling of oneness with all living creatures, and even with the stars in the firmament. But I have no sense that the universe has a personality or is sentient, as my fellow creatures are to varying degrees. Nor do I expect a response to my needs. The feeling of unity does not entail anything personal at all – just that we’re part of one vast mass, and one day every living thing will be dead, and will be replaced by other living things. I find this rather sad but extremely beautiful.
I, as well, do not see the universe as a personality or a being with a personality...I see as it as matter full of potential. I can feel the oneness of all things if I choose to imagine it. But I dont sense a sentient being parse, unless I choose to feel it that way.
It may all boil down to personal experience, but I’m only reflecting on your post, and exchanging thoughts – not trying to pick holes.
I definitely agree that it all boils down to our own personal experience. I also do not think you are trying to pick holes at all and appreciate your questions. As with Tony, I can't always really know how I see things, for the most part, unless I'm asked. Again, as with Tony, what I think is not set in stone either, but as malleable as matter itself...even if some ideas take longer to change. When the view changes, I can change how I view with it.
continued...sorry for no proof reading!
Complete thread:
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dhw,
2011-11-29, 17:33
- BBella\'s Universe -
David Turell,
2011-11-29, 17:57
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-29, 22:53
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-11-30, 00:51
- BBella\'s Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-11-30, 03:31
- BBella\'s Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-30, 04:28
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-11-29, 22:53
- BBella\'s Universe - BBella, 2011-11-30, 09:03
- BBella\'s Universe - BBella, 2011-11-30, 09:29
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-11-30, 09:36
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-11-30, 15:12
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-11-30, 19:21
- BBella\'s Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-11-30, 19:54
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-12-01, 00:32
- BBella\'s Universe - BBella, 2011-12-01, 07:02
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-12-01, 07:03
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:48
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-12-01, 18:57
- BBella\'s Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 03:11
- BBella\'s Universe - Balance_Maintained, 2011-12-02, 04:07
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-12-02, 05:16
- BBella\'s Universe - dhw, 2011-12-02, 17:31
- BBella\'s Universe -
xeno6696,
2011-12-02, 03:11
- BBella\'s Universe -
Balance_Maintained,
2011-12-01, 18:57
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-12-01, 17:48
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-12-04, 08:43
- BBella\'s Universe - David Turell, 2011-12-04, 15:55
- BBella\'s Universe -
dhw,
2011-12-05, 20:19
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-12-06, 08:39
- BBella\'s Universe - dhw, 2011-12-07, 22:54
- BBella\'s Universe -
BBella,
2011-12-06, 08:39
- BBella\'s Universe -
David Turell,
2011-11-29, 17:57