Darwinist ignorance, confusion & epigenetics (Introduction)
David believes that humans "are preordained from the beginning", whereas I think the higgledy-piggledy pattern of evolution suggests that either the UI (if it exists) didn't know where evolution was heading, or if it did plan to create humans, it initially didn't know how ... in both cases, therefore, it was experimenting.-DAVID: Your scenario doesn't fit our knowledge of evolution. It is a branching tree. To go from amoeba to human is not exactly a straight line, but an explosion of branching limbs, with many cut off by bad luck.-This is precisely why I find your scenario so unconvincing. Reason and experience tell me that anything planned from the start should not branch off in all directions, and should not rely on luck. (I repeat, if extinction is a matter of bad luck, then survival is a matter of good luck.) Any Texan cowboy will tell you that a scattergun is not the weapon best guaranteed to hit the target.
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