Darwinist ignorance, confusion & epigenetics (Introduction)
DAVID: As for teleology, assumptions are required: the Maker coded progress through evolution (into DNA) for one-celled beginners to end up as humans and added epigenetic abilities to make sure the process arrived at humans.-As we have a slight lull in proceedings, I thought I'd come back to this wonderfully provocative statement, and do some provoking of my own. If one accepts, for argument's sake, that there is indeed a Maker, I don't think it's unreasonable to speculate on why things are as they are. So do you think the Maker deliberately manufactured his one-celled beginners KNOWING that they would end up as humans, but incapable of making them directly (as in Genesis)? If he knew, what do you imagine was the purpose of all the extinct species that he must have KNOWN would have preceded us? Why do you not consider it equally if not more feasible that he began with an experiment, and continued experimenting, making it up as he went along? Doesn't this scenario fit in far better with the apparent randomness of emergence and extinction? (I'm asking here for your reasoning, not for your belief.)-Why would epigenetic abilities ensure the emergence of humans? Do you believe adaptation actually results in NEW organs and NEW species, or does it merely lead to small variations in existing species? If the adapted variation survives, why would it need to change?-I shall be away for a few days now, but will catch up next week, assuming there will have been a few epigenetic changes to this thread!
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