Innovation and Speciation: aquatic mammals avoid bends (Evolution)

by David Turell , Friday, December 04, 2020, 18:59 (1448 days ago) @ dhw

Denton

DAVID: All of this are reasonable suppositions, but not an explanation of the complexity of the designs produced by cell committees.

dhw: What do you mean? There are three theistic explanations on offer: God preprogrammed or dabbled them all, and your God designed an autonomous mechanism that designed them all. Thank you for accepting the feasibility of the survival theory.

Just because I didn't discuss it doesn't mean I accept a drive for survival as driving evolution. Most new species require too many complicated designs to be practical for survival shown in whales and other aquatic mammals.

Genome complexity
DAVID: Even Shapiro doesn't go that far. All He has found is bacteria can edit DNA, and stay the same species.

DAVID: A theoretical proposal based on bacterial editing DNA.

dhw: Do you really think he didn’t incorporate the research of his fellow scientists?

DAVID: All of his theory is in the context of Darwinian evolution, which struggles to remain consistent with itself.

dhw: Now that you’ve dropped your absurd idea that Shapiro only deals with bacteria, would you please tell me what is “inconsistent” about his theory as quoted by you.

It is a theory based on his research, and is therefor consistent with his research. Proves nothing about true speciation.

dhw: So why do you try to discredit his theory when your own theory is open to the same objection?

All theories are just theories. I prefer mine.

Aquatic mammals> DAVID: These are intense physiological and phenotypical alterations. It always raises the observation, why if survival as a mammal is so complex why did mammals enter an aquatic life? Unless there is great stress for survival it is a very difficult path to follow. Migration to a better spot is more sensible and practical.

dhw: Maybe they reckoned it was worth exploring the known waters rather than wandering off to who knows what? Anyway, why didn’t your God tell the mammals to migrate, instead of stepping in to operate on their legs before they entered the water? Much simpler. Or do you think he HAD TO send them into the water because otherwise he couldn’t have designed humans and their food supplies a few million years later?

Remember, God does what He wants. He obviously wanted them to live in the water and engineered the necessary changes. Perfectly consistent with choosing to evolve humans. All consistent with theistic reasoning.