Innovation and Speciation: whale changes (Evolution)

by David Turell , Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:14 (2748 days ago) @ dhw
edited by David Turell, Monday, May 15, 2017, 15:41

dhw: I’m sorry it makes no sense to you, but I’m surprised you can find sense in a theory that the pre-whale entered the water for no conceivable reason (except that your God guided it), and God specially designed eight different stages rather just create the whale he wanted, and you don’t know why he wanted the whale in the first place when all he really wanted was humans.

No, I don't know how God's mind works. My point is simply that changing a large land animal to an aquatic animal is a master challenge of evolution. Simply, why bother. But that is my reaction. God bothered.

dhw: Nobody can explain speciation. We can only hypothesize, but speciation is the result of cell communities combining in different ways. The idea that they do so in order to improve their chances of survival makes perfect sense to me, though apparently not to you. Similarly, organisms might develop different lifestyles through migration, symbiosis, parasitism etc. All geared to survival and/or improvement.

You tell me that nobody can explain speciation and then bring up your mindless cell committees to explain the huge gaps in form between species evolutionary changes.

dhw: You have acknowledged that my alternatives make perfect sense, but you prefer an explanation that makes no sense even to you.
DAVID: My explanation is an overall view. Your alternatives can fit the history but don't end up in an overall perspective that fits everything together as I view mine does.

dhw: As above: you don’t know why the whale entered the water, or why your God needed eight separate attempts at designing it, or why he wanted whales in the first place when all he really wanted was humans, so how does it all fit together?

Don't you realize the eight steps are giant evolutionary changes in each form? This is evolution of an animal, not eight desultory vague attempts as you imply. And it all fits together as the bush of life, part of the econiches of the ocean balancer of life for a food energy supply.