Innovation and Speciation: whale changes (Evolution)

by dhw, Friday, May 19, 2017, 12:43 (2744 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: The problem is not that I don’t accept the parts; the problem is that the parts don’t fit the theory. And a theory that does not explain the parts simply isn’t credible.
DAVID: All of the discussion we have recently had has led to my realization that we clearly see adaptations to environment, but not speciation as a result of environment.

Of course we clearly see adaptations to the environment, but nobody has “seen” speciation. That doesn’t mean “speciation is separate from environment”, especially when three days after making this claim you say “prior speciation allows the animal to enter a new environment”, after also saying that you “don’t look at animals’ structural changes and environmental shifts as occurring in any special order”. Your views change day by day, so let’s see where we stand today. The subject of this thread is the whale. Do you now believe that your God embarked on an eight-stage design of the pre-whale to allow it to enter a new environment? If so, do you still believe there is no link between speciation and the environment?

DAVID: Since I believe that God created species my theories all fit together. That is what you do not see as credible.

And yet you do not know why your God made the pre-whale enter the water, why he designed it in eight stages, or why he wanted to design it in the first place although his one and only purpose was to design human beings. And it’s not just species: you keep insisting that he also designed all the lifestyles and natural wonders, although his one and only purpose...etc. I’d better just repeat that we all know life requires energy, but as you have agreed many times, that is irrelevant to the main focus of your theory, which is that your God’s one and only purpose…etc., and everything else was related to that. And THAT is the theory that has you changing your mind day by day: God is/is not in total control; experimentation is/is not “off the reservation”; speciation is/is not connected with environmental change…If only you would modify your dogma to accommodate the POSSIBILITY that your God did NOT design everything, and/or did NOT gear the WHOLE of evolution to the SOLE purpose of creating humans, you wouldn’t get into this mess!