Innovation and Speciation: earliest fully a whale (Evolution)

by David Turell , Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 17:43 (2004 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: As usual, the critics and you fasten onto the chance theme, and totally ignore the possibility that all these complex changes were the result not of chance but of intelligent cooperation between the cellular communities of which all multicellular organisms are composed. Nobody has the slightest idea how long it would take intelligent organisms to work out these complexities, so the whole argument simply falls apart if we accept what even you regard as a 50/50 possibility that cells/cell communities are intelligent.

DAVID: My comment about cell intelligence relates only to the momentary activities of individual cells as they respond to stimuli or manufacture necessary proteins. It does not apply to your fantasy that cells can invent new complex forms of whole animals.

dhw: I have never suggested that they can invent new complex forms of whole animals. Whole animal invention is the prerogative of Creationists. I believe in common descent, that is to say each new species is directly descended from preceding species. However, as we have agreed over and over again, NOBODY knows the cause of speciation, which is why the proposal that cellular intelligence may extend as far as innovation remains a hypothesis, just like your proposal that 3.8 billion years ago your God provided the first cells with a programme for every undabbled innovation in the history of life.

As usual you have skipped over the obvious need for preparatory design, and therefore a designer.