Genome complexity: controlling DNA in the cell (Introduction)

by David Turell , Thursday, November 08, 2018, 18:20 (1994 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: What do you think your guys study except molecular reactions in cells? That is what biological research is at the intracellular level!

dhw: The question does not revolve around molecular reactions but around what DRIVES the molecular reactions! My guys have observed how cells solve problems, and have concluded that the molecular reactions which lead to the solution of the problems are driven by cellular intelligence.

But all they can see in studying molecular reactions is those reactions, and assuming a background intelligence, not automaticity in the reactions, thus they must introduce an enormous assumption of a background of active intelligence, when it all can be intelligent design of responses.

DAVID: Intelligent molecular reactions in cells cannot create evolution All they are doing is performing life's homeostasis. Do any of your folks think cellular intelligence leads to evolution?

dhw: If you bear in mind that Shapiro is a strong champion of cellular intelligence, I think his concept of natural genetic engineering suggests precisely that:
www.thethirdwayofevolution.com/people/view/james-a-shapiro

QUOTES: "The capacity of living organisms to alter their own heredity is undeniable. Our current ideas about evolution have to incorporate this basic fact of life."
(Evolution: A View from the 21st Century, p.2)

quote: “Shapiro integrates advances in symbiogenesis, epigenetics, and saltationism into a unified approach that views evolutionary change as an active cell process, regulated epigenetically and capable of making rapid large changes by horizontal DNA transfer, inter-specific hybridization, whole genome doubling, symbiogenesis, or massive genome restructuring.”

I've carefully read all of this a long time ago, based on his bacterial studies, and have integrated it into my thinking and arguments.

DAVID: I fully understand where your rump is placed on the picket fence. You admit design is needed to explain the tremendous changes in evolution, but can't explain where the design originated so you invent what to me are preposterous hypotheses based on a monstrous extrapolation of cellular intelligence, when all they are doing is intelligently running life's homeostasis because of how they are designed. Which is why this website exists to help clear up agnostic confusion.

dhw: Sorry, but your polemic does not lend any credibility to your own hypothesis, whose illogicality you admit by claiming that your God’s logic must be different from ours.

How do you logically know God's logic is like ours. I believe in Him but I don't know I know His form of logic must be like mine. You must know Him better than I do.