An Alternative to Evolution: Expounded Upon (Introduction)

by dhw, Tuesday, July 31, 2018, 10:14 (2306 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: My approach has been that single cells, either as bacteria or part of multicellular organisms are programmed to respond to stimuli by a series of molecular reactions which are intelligently designed to solve the problem presented. The scientists dhw quotes simply say the cells react intelligently. Of course they do. Research shows the molecular reactions, nothing more. Intelligently planned reactions, noting no mental action is implied, is the logical conclusion.

dhw: I have bombarded you with quotes from eminent scientists like McClintock, Margulis, Albrecht-Buehler, Shapiro who say quite explicitly that cells are intelligent, sentient, cognitive, conscious beings (though of course their intelligence is not to be compared with that of humans). I haven’t got time to go back through them all, but here are some of them:

McClintock: “ the fact that cells are self-aware problem-solving agencies cannot be reasonably disputed.”

William Miller MD author of “The Microcosm Within”
“Cells are cognitive entities possessing great computational power."

Shapiro: ”Living cells and organisms are cognitive (sentient) entities that act and interact purposefully to ensure survival, growth, and proliferation. They possess corresponding sensory, communication, information-processing, and decision-making capabilities."
When asked why people like you challenge the concept of cellular intelligence, Shapiro replied:: “Large organs chauvinism, so we like to think that only we can do things in a cognitive way.”

Bruce Lipton: "Cells came together in community to share awareness and enhance their survival. The same thing applies as to individuals in a human community. In community, each individual gives up their own "control" of what they are going to do and instead conforms to the coordinating central voice's directives."

dhw: Your comment was: "He is with you. He likes purposeful cell committees."
Yes indeed, he too is with me. And like me, he calls them communities.
Margulis said that intelligence was "an intrinsic property of cells".

dhw: None of them “simply say the cells react intelligently”. They say a great deal more than that, so please don’t pretend that they have come to the same “logical conclusion” as you have.

DAVID: I pretended nothing of the kind. Do you read the same words I write. It is my conclusion as I stated.

You pretended that “the scientists simply say the cells react intelligently” and that the research shows nothing more than intelligently planned molecular reactions. Therefore the (not “my”) logical conclusion is that “no mental action is required”. Of course that would be “the” logical conclusion. But the scientists don’t “simply say” that, and “nothing more than…” is NOT what their research shows! Your “simply say” leaves out the all-important fact that they say their research shows that mental action IS required. I have corrected this error in your post by quoting what the scientists actually do say.