An Alternative to Evolution: Expounded Upon (Introduction)
David:Since I don't follow the Bible I thought inexactly about the Bible's meaning of separate creation as you describe it. I had in mind stepwise creation as in evolution rather than totally separate individual creation implied in the Bible.
It was both stepwise and creation. I think part of the issue is that you are looking at life as independent, and it isn't. It isn't something that could just happen, nor did its happening fail to make an impact.
Let's assume for a moment there is/was a plan, but agree not to speculate the future of that plan for a moment. All that is relevant is that the sequence of events, and the timing of them, was according to plan.
So earth is there, barren, formless, devoid of life. Much like any other planet in the universe. For whatever reason, this planet was picked. Planetary processes were kicked off, heat, gas, water vapor forming the atmosphere.
All good, but the plan needs life, and the planet won't sustain the next stage. So, Kickstart the process with plant life to fix the atmosphere, regulate temperatures, soil binding and breaking(all that yummy volcanic stone to digest).
Then, birds and fish, to spread these early plants all over the face of the planet. Giant lizards to handle what were likely mammoth trees, breaking down that early overrun of plant growth and probably carrion eaters as well.
And so on. By the time mammals were created, and before humans, everything was going according to plan.
Yes, all plants descended from early plants, possibly even a single plant, though that is highly doubtful. These creative periods spanned eons. And it says God prepared a garden. I am certain that, in that amount of time, he could hand designed a few, or at least a few different baseline species during each period.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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