autonomy v. automaticity (Evolution)

by David Turell @, Sunday, March 11, 2018, 18:46 (531 days ago) @ dhw

DAVID: I see it differently. If God used patterns and even gave organisms mechanisms, it makes his job of creating a huge diversity bush easier. I believe God guided evolution. You don't.

dhw: This depends on what you mean by “guided”. You now seem to regard his job as “creating a huge diversity bush”, which is a colossal switch from creating the brain of Homo sapiens – hitherto his one and only purpose. I am the one who suggests that if he exists, he actually WANTED a huge diversity bush, and I’m quite happy to accept Darwin’s proposal that this evolved from a few forms or one, which matches Tony’s and your own. Each twig, however, would not need “guidance” if he gave it an intelligent, AUTONOMOUS, inventive mechanism of its own – e.g. he did not have to design a particular nest, a particular camouflage, a particular migratory pattern etc. That is where your “guidance” goes way beyond my personal bounds of credulity, and of course my hypothesis leads precisely to him thus doing his “job” of creating a huge diversity bush.

When I enter something as above, I assume you understand that I have not changed my mind about the goal of a human species with our magnificent brain. He also created an enormous diverse bush of life along the way which helped to supply the energy for evolution to continue for a very long time (3.8 billion years). You use an IM and i suggest built-in patterns of development. Why are you incredulous that God would want to carefully guide His plan of evolution?

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