autonomy v. automaticity (Evolution)
dhw: So since (in theistic mode) I agree that your God must have had a purpose, and we even agree on one possible purpose, you can stop using the “I don't see you using purpose” argument. It is irrelevant.
DAVID: I can easily accept that in your 'theistic mode' you and I are in general agreement.
dhw: Well, yes, in relation to many religious beliefs, I think we are. But your illogical insistence that your God personally designed every natural wonder etc. in the history of life, and did so for the sole purpose of producing the brain of Homo sapiens...no, I don't think I shall ever accept that this must be true because God's logic is different from ours.
My reasoning is not God's logic difference. My logic: The human brain is a total surprise based on your contention that improvement and survival drive evolution. I don't believe they do based on bacterial survival without brains. I firmly believe in a drive to complexity, which is a clear and obvious choice, supplied by God. We've been over all this.
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