Evolution v Creationism: guided evolution? dhw? (Evolution)

by dhw, Sunday, April 26, 2015, 13:04 (3497 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: My problem is the primary fact that evolution appears to have produced conscious humans. I try to work rationally from that incredulous circumstance.-Perhaps your problem is that you believe the production of humans to be the primary fact. You admit that other organisms have degrees of consciousness, and you accept that humans have descended from other organisms, but for some reason you are desperate to impose a 3.7-billion-year plan on your God, and to fit history around it. The truly incredible circumstance in my view is the origin of mechanisms for life, reproduction and evolution. These would seem to require some sort of consciousness, and whatever that form may be, it must be responsible for all the advances, including the weaverbird's special nest, the spider's special silk, the whale's special blowhole, and the human brain with its special self-awareness. Your anthropocentric interpretation does not fit in with all the other "specials", and so on Thursday you wrote: "You are still looking for rational explanations for everything. I don't." And on Saturday you wrote: "I try to work rationally from that incredulous circumstance." Why are we only allowed to be rational if we adhere to your idea of "the primary fact"?