Evolution v Creationism: guided evolution? dhw? (Evolution)
> DAVID: Definition of autonomous: "acting independently or having the freedom to do so"-> dhw: Good definition. I am suggesting that in the theistic version, your God could have given organisms the independence and freedom to use the inventive mechanism in whatever ways were suitable for the environment. Hence the vast variety and higgledy-piggledy comings and goings. That is autonomy. But he could dabble if/when he felt like it (i.e. take control), which means removal of autonomy. What is your definition of semi-autonomy?-Semi-autonomy in my version is that God is intent upon humans arriving, therefore He dabbles and corrects when He has to, just as you suggest. -> DAVID: But if God is doing it, under my scenario, one gets humans every time. > > dhw: I don't see why all universes have to be the same. You don't allow your God much imagination, do you?-You are giving God attributes again, ones that we cannot know. If He did it once, why not every time? I view us as an amazing pinnacle to the process of evolution, a seemingly impossible end point if chance is in charge. > > xxxxx > > dhw: I will reply to the article on "unconscious energy" tomorrow, although you have already posted the obvious reply with the Weinberg interview!-I have no idea how you are going to interpret Weinberg. His observation is that we know only what we see, not why it has to be that way.
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2014-09-12, 12:45
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2015-04-06, 15:12
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2015-04-05, 16:06
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dhw,
2015-04-05, 14:37
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David Turell,
2015-04-04, 18:08
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2015-03-30, 14:20
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2015-03-29, 19:23
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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2015-03-24, 21:20
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dhw,
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dhw,
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David Turell,
2015-03-21, 22:15
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dhw,
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- Evolution v Creationism: guided evolution? -
David Turell,
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-09-21, 14:53
- Evolution v Creationism (Part II Responses) -
dhw,
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- Evolution v Creationism (Part II Responses) -
David Turell,
2014-09-16, 16:12
- Evolution v Creationism (Part II Responses) -
dhw,
2014-09-16, 12:52
- Evolution v Creationism (Part II Responses) -
David Turell,
2014-09-13, 03:15
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-09-13, 00:46
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