Evolution v Creationism: guided evolution? dhw? (Evolution)

by David Turell , Sunday, March 29, 2015, 00:30 (3526 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: Autonomy doesn't mean you can do whatever you like. Even if we have free will, as you believe, we can't will ourselves into becoming elephants or into dissolving the prison walls. In exactly the same way, the autonomous IM would be capable of adapting and innovating, independently of any preprogramming, but not independently of its own limitations or of the environment (which could include a dabbling God). Your “semi-autonomous” is the real quibble.-Definition of autonomous: "acting independently or having the freedom to do so"-You are quibbling. Of course, there are limits from the environment, etc. but I am considering the control of the direction of evolution.
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> All of us are limited to guesswork. Your acknowledgement that your God might have produced earlier universes and might go on producing universes runs parallel to my suggestion that first-cause non-conscious energy is capable of doing the same thing. With an eternity of universes, which you now accept as theoretically possible, you have an infinite number of material combinations which eventually - during eternity - might produce the one that results in life and evolution. An atheist's dream.-But if God is doing it, under my scenario, one gets humans every time.