Chance v. Design Part 4 (Evolution)
I tried to explain to Matt why for me the question whether life was the product of chance or design was crucial to belief/non-belief/disbelief in the existence of a creator. Since this is not the case for him, I wrote: "It would be interesting for me to know what evidence you see for any type of creator if the evidence isn't life." - In relation to chance, Matt has explained "the system". He goes on: "To me, when someone says that life is too complex to have come about by chance, I think about this system and pull on the brakes. What this shows to me that they're spending too much time looking at one specific example and not studying the system at large. They're asking about a red dice being 5 and a blue dice being 2, and not looking at the larger picture which dictates that you'll roll a 7 more often than any other sum." - I'm sorry, Matt, but what this shows to me is that you're spending too much time studying dice, and are not studying the unique and therefore incomparable (see J. Rosenhouse) phenomenon of life and its evolution.
Complete thread:
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-02, 11:38
- Chance v. Design -
George Jelliss,
2009-05-02, 19:05
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-03, 21:02
- Chance v. Design -
George Jelliss,
2009-05-03, 22:24
- Chance v. Design - David Turell, 2009-05-04, 00:46
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-05, 08:29
- Chance v. Design -
George Jelliss,
2009-05-05, 19:58
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-07, 08:59
- Chance v. Design -
BBella,
2009-05-08, 21:03
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-10, 13:15
- Chance v. Design - BBella, 2009-05-12, 04:51
- Chance v. Design - David Turell, 2009-05-11, 22:21
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-10, 13:15
- Chance v. Design -
George Jelliss,
2009-05-10, 19:19
- Chance v. Design - dhw, 2009-05-12, 12:50
- Chance v. Design -
BBella,
2009-05-08, 21:03
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-07, 08:59
- Chance v. Design -
George Jelliss,
2009-05-05, 19:58
- Chance v. Design -
George Jelliss,
2009-05-03, 22:24
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-05-03, 21:02
- Chance v. Design -
Matt S.,
2009-06-02, 22:16
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-06-03, 12:40
- Chance v. Design -
Matt S.,
2009-06-04, 03:28
- Chance v. Design -
David Turell,
2009-06-04, 19:23
- Chance v. Design -
David Turell,
2009-06-05, 14:20
- Chance v. Design - David Turell, 2009-06-05, 16:38
- Chance v. Design -
David Turell,
2009-06-05, 14:20
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-06-04, 21:50
- Chance v. Design -
Matt S.,
2009-06-04, 22:24
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-06-06, 11:41
- Chance v. Design - Matt S., 2009-06-06, 19:36
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
Matt S.,
2009-06-06, 19:47
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
dhw,
2009-06-07, 23:07
- Chance v. Design Part 3 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-09, 14:44
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-09, 14:45
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-06-10, 08:54
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-11, 18:47
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-06-26, 20:29
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-27, 18:45
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-06-29, 08:16
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-30, 04:39
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-01, 08:20
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-01, 14:54
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-03, 10:22
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-03, 19:26
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
George Jelliss,
2009-07-04, 17:13
- Chance v. Design Part 4 - David Turell, 2009-07-04, 18:25
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-04, 19:35
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-05, 00:18
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
David Turell,
2009-07-05, 03:09
- Chance v. Design Part 4 - David Turell, 2009-07-07, 01:39
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-08, 17:42
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
David Turell,
2009-07-09, 22:08
- Chance v. Design Part 4 - xeno6696, 2009-07-09, 23:26
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
David Turell,
2009-07-09, 22:08
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
David Turell,
2009-07-05, 03:09
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-05, 00:18
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-05, 22:23
- Chance v. Design Part 4 - xeno6696, 2009-07-08, 15:04
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-08, 20:43
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-10, 12:24
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-11, 04:16
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-12, 08:44
- Chance v. Design Part 4 - xeno6696, 2009-07-12, 18:37
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-12, 08:44
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-11, 04:16
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-10, 12:24
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
George Jelliss,
2009-07-04, 17:13
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-03, 19:26
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-03, 10:22
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-07-01, 14:54
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-07-01, 08:20
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-30, 04:39
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-06-29, 08:16
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-27, 18:45
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-06-26, 20:29
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-11, 18:47
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-06-10, 09:00
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
George Jelliss,
2009-06-11, 10:51
- Chance v. Design Part 4 - dhw, 2009-06-26, 20:37
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
George Jelliss,
2009-06-11, 10:51
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
Balance_Maintained,
2012-08-18, 04:41
- Chance v. Design Part 4 - xeno6696, 2012-08-18, 14:36
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
dhw,
2009-06-10, 08:54
- Chance v. Design Part 3 -
David Turell,
2009-06-10, 02:12
- Chance v. Design Part 3 - David Turell, 2012-08-06, 15:32
- Chance v. Design Part 3 -
Balance_Maintained,
2012-08-18, 04:38
- Chance v. Design Part 3 - xeno6696, 2012-08-18, 14:33
- Chance v. Design Part 4 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-09, 14:45
- Chance v. Design Part 3 -
xeno6696,
2009-06-09, 14:44
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
Balance_Maintained,
2012-08-18, 04:01
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
xeno6696,
2012-08-18, 14:26
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
Balance_Maintained,
2012-08-19, 04:28
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
xeno6696,
2012-08-20, 01:08
- Chance v. Design Part 2 - Balance_Maintained, 2012-08-20, 04:46
- Chance v. Design Part 2 - dhw, 2012-08-20, 20:26
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
xeno6696,
2012-08-20, 01:08
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
Balance_Maintained,
2012-08-19, 04:28
- Chance v. Design Part 2 - dhw, 2012-08-19, 17:13
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
xeno6696,
2012-08-18, 14:26
- Chance v. Design Part 2 -
dhw,
2009-06-07, 23:07
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-06-06, 11:41
- Chance v. Design -
Matt S.,
2009-06-04, 22:24
- Chance v. Design -
David Turell,
2009-06-04, 19:23
- Chance v. Design -
Matt S.,
2009-06-04, 03:28
- Chance v. Design -
dhw,
2009-06-03, 12:40
- Chance v. Design -
George Jelliss,
2009-05-02, 19:05