Asking of the Designer what we would of any other designer (The atheist delusion)

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Sunday, July 31, 2011, 16:19 (4625 days ago) @ David Turell


> > Another way of putting it is this: If you accept that the big bang model agrees with observation, then you implicitly accept the precision of the mathematics that describe it. The models run in experiments like in what I showed use the exact same equations used to study the Big Bang, they just subtracted a force and observed what happened to the universes. If you label these simulations as "guesses" than you really throw the entire Big Bang mathematical model into question--NOT just this particular experiment. 
> > [EDITED] hopefully for more clarity...
> 
> Now very clear. you ARE a good teacher. But, if the laws were presented before the Big Bang only this universe exists, and that is all we can really know. I still can't accept dealing with a multiverse we cannot see or prove. See my entry in 'protocol' prevous.-And I agree, we can only confirm things we have access to in this universe. (Forgot to mention that.) When I worked with the plant biochemist back in '07, he brought in a mutant henbit. (lamium Amplexicaule) In the shade, chlorophyll seemed to fade from its leaves. The important lesson from the prof was this: science is advanced by studying the outliers, the abnormal cases. By studying abnormal universes (even if we can't visit them) they may uncover anomalies that could give us the information we need to resolve quantum and classical mechanics without needing to resort to more outlandish theories.

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"


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