Asking of the Designer what we would of any other designer (The atheist delusion)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, July 30, 2011, 17:53 (4865 days ago) @ David Turell

Sometimes I think we worry too much about luckiness when it comes to abiogenesis. lucky or just one more precondition which obviously got checked off or we would not be here to tell the tale?
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> > Hate to be a wet blanket but lucky doesn't worry me.
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> The Anthropic Principle, which I view as circular reasoning, really says what you have said, but slightly differently: we are here because we are here and it is all those conditions you stated and a whole bunch more, which we can identify, that show us all the pre-conditions that were met to allow us to be here. And we are smart enough to do all that science of identification. Are we talking about serendipity or purpose when we look at the fine-tuning of the universe and of the Earth, a tuning which allows life? 
> -I find the Anthropic principle as dangerous because it closes the door on exploring universes that couldn't support life. There's alot of good information that I think could inform us about our universe in all those cases.-> Each of us can look at the evidence and choose: chance or purpose? Take your choice, unless the evidence seems to you stronger on one side rather than the other. Then your choice is stronger than just a coin flip. For me, viewing all the evidence we have, purpose is the proper choice.-Or a different perspective: Insufficient data.

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