Asking of the Designer what we would of any other designer (The atheist delusion)

by xeno6696 , Sonoran Desert, Saturday, July 30, 2011, 17:55 (4865 days ago) @ whateverist

I like the way you allow for a substrate with which a designer would have to work in order to have created the universe. So many people seem to think that the elements and the speed of light and everything else was god's arbitrary whim. If there must be a creator, let her be intelligent at least.
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> "Are we talking about serendipity or purpose when we look at the fine-tuning of the universe and of the Earth, a tuning which allows life?"
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> I lean the other way but after arguing fruitlessly with my religious brother your stance is refreshing. It makes it possible for you to embrace big bangs and evolution and absolutely anything else science may uncover as evidence of god's fine tuning. I've argued endlessly with him that none of this is something that he should take as evidence against the christian god.-The best thing about David's book is that it has the possibility of bringing religious people like your brother back to the table. My mother just became interested in the book when she saw it here... she's a YEC (and yes I'm going to hell, lol.) I don't necessarily agree with David's thesis but so far it's incredibly well written, argued, and doesn't make claims to hocus-pocus.

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