Asking of the Designer what we would of any other designer (The atheist delusion)

by David Turell , Saturday, July 30, 2011, 15:22 (4865 days ago) @ dhw

MATT: Luck doesn't bother me terribly much either, but the overall point of dhw's (site owner) is this: Believing that chance created all of this when combining all the statistics we're aware of is an awful lot of faith.
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> That is far from being my overall point! As you know, I am like yourself an "avid fence sitter", and belief in chance and belief in a conscious creator BOTH require an awful lot of faith, which I don't have. I do, however, have great respect for those who are able to take the plunge, provided they respect others who do not share their faith, and I find it an endless source of education and often wonderment at the insights provided both by believers and by sceptics. Yeah, I think that sums up my "overall point".-And I keep gently kidding those on the picket fence. How do the buttocks feel today? To quote Matt: chance =s 'an awful lot of faith'. On the side of Diety we have Pascal's leap. I didn't find it difficult, when it seems to me to be logical. If chance can't do it, who or what can? It is much harder to believe in Stenger's always existing quanta than an everlasting intelligence. The quanta have to get by chance to the information that runs life. Now that expectation is a doozy!

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