Animal Minds (Animals)

by David Turell , Sunday, June 12, 2011, 01:14 (4912 days ago) @ xeno6696

We are different in kind. There is your challenge! We were meant to be king of the heap.
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> I have incredibly immense problems with your last statement here. It is Machiavellan. -I've been to Florence. I like that comparison. ;-() 
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> The ability for language is key to human intelligence. Adler's book never once tackled apes capable of deriving new meanings, which while capped compared to an adult human, the very fact that you can say a chimp is as intelligent as a 4yr old undermines your own argument.-No it doesn't! Yes they can reach the four year level, at least a few of them did in that study, but can you image this world and this human race at the four year level? Yes the chimps can pick up words and use them meaningfully. So? Adler never saw these new studies. His book is from the 60's. Poodles can learn 200 hundred word commands and concepts. I still suggest "Not A Chimp"; the chapter 'Clever Corvids' should give you pause. I'm sure chimps have an embryonal speech center, but corvids are just as bright in figuring out challenges.