Biochemistry of cell communication; message molecules (Introduction)

by David Turell @, Tuesday, February 20, 2018, 17:38 (2467 days ago) @ dhw


dhw: As so often before, though givest with one hand and taketh away with the other. Cells appear to be conscious, and “that consciousness fully pervades all levels of the universe is reasonable” (my bold), so it must reasonable to propose that what appears to be conscious IS conscious. But you don’t believe it. Ah well, I’ll settle for the fact that the proposal now seems reasonable to you!

DAVID: Have you forgotten that I think God's consciousness pervades all of the universe?

dhw: What does this mean? Is your level of consciousness your own or God’s? Is your dog’s level of consciousness its own or God's? Is an ant’s level of consciousness its own or God’s? Is a bacterium’s level of consciousness its own or God’s? Have you forgotten what you wrote: “That consciousness fully pervades all levels of the universe is reasonable. And I believe God is universal consciousness.” That makes you a theistic panpsychist. It also means that cells are conscious at the level of cell consciousness.

Doesn't mean that at all. I've always stated that the consciousness of the universe is God's, and that He has designed cells to appear conscious as in my entry today about cell products addressed to arrive at the right useful point.


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