Ruminations on multiverses; if they are evil (Introduction)
dhw: Sorry, but it was you who used the image of a fellow comparing results, so how can that possibly not be “humanizing”? And sorry again, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with speculating that a conscious mind which creates a conscious mind might (a) have something in common with what it creates, and (b) might have a reason for creating it. And I see nothing wrong in studying the history of life in order to speculate on (a) whether God exists, and (b) if he does, what might be his intentions and his nature. But I agree that multiple groups of humans can be speculated upon as a possibility. So might multiple groups of intelligent jabberwockys, and so might no groups of anything at all.
God might compare the groups of humans He created, if such exist, but I don't think as a creator He would compare them as a human would. Would He root for one over another as a human would, or would He just sit back and observe how they do, in a non-human way? We just don't know. Is His consciousness like ours? Again unknown.
dhw: I don’t know why you use the word “accept” in relation to humans being God’s initial purpose. It is entirely your speculation. Personally, I agree that we are special. I don’t agree that your God must have designed every organism and lifestyle in order to keep life going until he could dabble with the pre-human brain or until his brain enlargement programme could switch itself on. THAT is the sticking-point between us,
As I've explained, He has the right to chose any method of getting to creating humans in any way He chooses. He may be in total control yet look limited.
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