Ruminations on multiverses; Another view (Introduction)

by dhw, Saturday, September 03, 2016, 12:53 (2791 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: That requires multiple Big Bangs, for which there is no evidence. we have a spatially flat universe from all evidence which means it expands until a heat death.-dhw: Leaving aside the fact that the Big Bang theory remains a theory, we have no idea what preceded it, and there is no evidence for ANY theory, including that of an eternal form of conscious energy which you call God and which you think caused the Big Bang and therefore must have preceded the Big Bang. There is no objection you can raise to my hypothesis that cannot be raised against every other hypothesis.-DAVID: You have simply sidestepped my statement of current measurements that show we have a flat universe that should continue to stretch out and finally die. And we see it actually flying apart at great speed based on the fully accepted supernova studies. I base my theories on what we observe as facts about this universe. I agree we don't know what preceded the arrival of this universe.-We do not even know if the universe is finite or infinite, and whether or not the big bang theory is correct, we do not - as you admit - know what preceded it. Current measurements can only be based on what is observable, and if the universe is infinite and eternal, the observable is relatively no bigger than a grain of sand on a beach zillions of miles long. Atheist scientists also base their theories on what are believed to be facts about this universe, so that argument doesn't help you much. As I see it (a purely subjective view, just like everybody else's), we have nothing but theories based on totally inadequate evidence. Hence, my hypothesis is no more and no less likely than any other.