Video of Unsettling Evolution in Action (Evolution)

by dhw, Friday, September 16, 2016, 13:44 (1007 days ago) @ David Turell

DAVID: Research has shown that bacteria are attacked by antibiotics at specific sites, but they have alternative pathways. Resistance develops in those who can adapt an alternative quickly enough.

dhw: “Resistance develops” leaves wide open the question of how it happens. The bacteria were set a problem and they solved it.

DAVID: I'm not being clear. Research has shown that bacteria have more than one metabolic pathway at their command to stay alive when attacked by antibiotics. Why do these exist? Over time they are attacked by these antibiotics which all exist initially in nature and so they have these alternatives. Those that stay alive simply switch over and use them. It takes some effort and time so the colonies pause on the giant plate. Where humans have modified the antibiotics the same results apply.
Did God help them along the way? I really don't know, but life is a miracle IMHO and since life is still here, something has worked once He gave life a start.

“Those that stay alive simply switch over…It takes some time and effort”. Hardly “simply” if it takes time and effort and lots of them die, and what sort of “effort” do the survivors make? How you apply effort if you haven't a clue what you're doing because God has organized it all for you? And if your God preprogrammed all the different “metabolic pathways”, why do some bacteria die and others survive? Did the first cells fail to pass on the right instructions to the unlucky ones? Or if God dabbled, was it HIS time and effort, and he only spent it on the lucky few? I appreciate that you are trying to find a justification for your beliefs, but since there are experts in the field who maintain that bacteria are intelligent, sentient, cognitive beings, I hope you will understand why I am not convinced by your arguments. That life is a miracle is not in dispute, and that something worked is not in dispute either. The discussion on HOW it worked is the point at issue, and the intelligence of bacteria does not preclude the existence of a God who gave it to them in the first place.

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