Evolution: a different view (Introduction)
Please note: I am putting the exaptation arguments together on this thread, which seems more appropriate than "Evolution v Creationism".-dhw: ...exaptations would also be inventive adjustments to existing organs. DAVID: Exaptation's appear thousands to hundred of thousand years before any use is found for them. That is a key issue in the idea of pre-planning. And: You totally miss the point about exaptation's. They appear well before any use of them is found and they are not necessary at the time of appearance. That is the definition of them.-I can't find any definition that supports this view. On one website I found the following definitions: 1. a process in which a feature acquires a function that was not acquired through natural selection. 2. a feature having a function for which it was not originally adapted or selected. 3. a morphological or physiological feature that predisposes an organism to adapt to a different environment or lifestyle. 4. predisposition toward adaptation.-None of these definitions suggest features that have hung around for thousands of years doing nothing. If anything, they seem to suggest innovative use of existing features. Another site offers the following illuminating comment and example: "It is a relatively new term, proposed by Stephen Jay Gould and Elisabeth Vrba in 1982 to make the point that a trait's current use does not necessarily explain its historical origin. They proposed exaptation as a counterpart to the concept of adaptation. For example, the earliest feathers belonged to dinosaurs not capable of flight. So, they must have first evolved for something else. Researchers have speculated early feathers may have been used for attracting mates or keeping warm. But later on, feathers became essential for modern birds' flight." This seems to be a classic example. Feathers originally served a different purpose. They didn't magically appear and hang around for yonks doing nothing until some cleverclogs decided to use them in order to fly. Another website gives the example of fins becoming limbs - not a useless feature suddenly becoming useful, but an existing feature taking on a new function. You regard the lowering of the larynx as another, and refer to it as “the descent of the larynx, long before language”. And: “Lucy had no idea she could one day learn to speak.” How do you imagine these early hominids communicated? Do you not think they made sounds? And do you not think their lowered larynx would have helped them to make different sounds using their own particular “language”? Or do you mean Lucy had no idea she could one day learn to speak English?
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2015-06-19, 18:04
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2016-04-22, 15:22
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David Turell,
2016-04-22, 05:21
- Evolution: a different view: correction - David Turell, 2016-04-22, 15:19
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- Evolution: a different view: ape speech - David Turell, 2015-08-16, 04:11
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dhw,
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dhw,
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dhw,
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- Evolution: a different method, polyploidy - David Turell, 2015-05-11, 01:16
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2015-05-20, 19:33
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2015-05-20, 20:48
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dhw,
2015-05-22, 08:27
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2015-05-22, 21:51
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Balance_Maintained,
2015-05-23, 12:03
- Evolution: a different view - David Turell, 2015-05-23, 15:00
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dhw,
2015-05-24, 17:35
- Evolution: a different view - David Turell, 2015-05-24, 18:57
- Evolution: a different view of heart design - David Turell, 2020-08-22, 22:53
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Balance_Maintained,
2015-05-23, 12:03
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Balance_Maintained,
2015-05-23, 11:30
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-23, 14:36
- Evolution: Micro vs. macroevolution -
David Turell,
2015-06-02, 23:22
- Evolution: Micro vs. macroevolution -
Balance_Maintained,
2015-06-03, 07:40
- Evolution: Computer simulations of mutations -
David Turell,
2015-06-08, 22:18
- Evolution: ancient sulphur-eating bacteria -
David Turell,
2016-11-30, 15:00
- Evolution: earliest plants older than thought -
David Turell,
2017-03-15, 00:49
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-21, 23:19
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-22, 10:47
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-22, 15:06
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-23, 09:27
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-23, 22:43
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-24, 13:20
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-24, 16:07
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-25, 13:20
- Evolution: dinosaurs not as dominant as thought -
David Turell,
2017-08-10, 19:07
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
David Turell,
2017-08-26, 20:21
- Evolution:mammal perineum appears pre-planned - David Turell, 2017-08-27, 00:30
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
dhw,
2017-08-27, 10:56
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
David Turell,
2017-08-27, 20:01
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
dhw,
2017-08-28, 13:19
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
David Turell,
2017-08-28, 19:21
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-21, 20:51
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-25, 14:23
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
dhw,
2017-09-26, 12:06
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-26, 17:11
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
dhw,
2017-09-27, 10:51
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-27, 15:13
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
dhw,
2017-09-28, 12:58
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-28, 14:28
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-28, 20:02
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
dhw,
2018-01-29, 13:53
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-29, 18:22
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
dhw,
2018-01-30, 12:44
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-30, 18:52
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
dhw,
2018-01-31, 14:10
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-31, 16:21
- Evolution: only genetics can design a bush of life -
David Turell,
2018-09-25, 17:44
- Evolution: only genetics can design a bush of life -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-25, 21:10
- Evolution: only genetics can design a bush of life -
David Turell,
2018-09-25, 22:21
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-07, 20:27
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-08, 06:07
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work - David Turell, 2018-10-08, 14:41
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
dhw,
2018-10-08, 14:17
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-08, 14:52
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work - David Turell, 2018-10-08, 14:54
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
dhw,
2018-10-09, 09:17
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-09, 17:40
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
dhw,
2018-10-10, 09:29
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-10, 17:55
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
dhw,
2018-10-11, 11:52
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-11, 15:35
- Evolution: first animals before the Cambrian -
David Turell,
2018-10-15, 18:33
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-24, 15:33
- Evolution: Darwinist wishful thinking -
David Turell,
2018-10-24, 22:35
- Evolution: Darwinist wishful thinking - Balance_Maintained, 2018-10-25, 00:24
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
dhw,
2018-10-25, 11:08
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-25, 15:12
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
David Turell,
2018-10-25, 18:38
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
dhw,
2018-10-26, 11:28
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
David Turell,
2018-10-26, 15:16
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
dhw,
2018-10-27, 09:34
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
David Turell,
2018-10-27, 19:28
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-29, 05:30
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
dhw,
2018-10-29, 12:33
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-29, 16:53
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk - David Turell, 2018-10-29, 21:24
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk - dhw, 2018-10-30, 08:54
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David Turell,
2018-10-29, 21:17
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk - David Turell, 2022-07-19, 23:26
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-29, 16:53
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
dhw,
2018-10-29, 12:33
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-29, 05:30
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
David Turell,
2018-10-27, 19:28
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
dhw,
2018-10-27, 09:34
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
David Turell,
2018-10-26, 15:16
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
dhw,
2018-10-26, 11:28
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
dhw,
2018-10-26, 11:07
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-26, 14:58
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
dhw,
2018-10-27, 09:26
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-27, 19:15
- Evolution: marine snow econiche -
David Turell,
2018-12-03, 19:03
- Evolution: plankton and the ocean/carbon cycle - David Turell, 2019-10-02, 20:12
- Evolution: development of flying not understood - David Turell, 2022-08-03, 18:37
- Evolution: marine snow econiche -
David Turell,
2018-12-03, 19:03
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-27, 19:15
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
dhw,
2018-10-27, 09:26
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-26, 14:58
- Evolution: development of the elephant trunk -
David Turell,
2018-10-25, 18:38
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-25, 15:12
- Evolution: Darwinist wishful thinking -
David Turell,
2018-10-24, 22:35
- Evolution: first life fossils on Earth - David Turell, 2022-11-11, 00:06
- Evolution: development of flying not understood -
David Turell,
2018-10-24, 15:33
- Evolution: first animals before the Cambrian -
David Turell,
2018-10-15, 18:33
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-11, 15:35
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
dhw,
2018-10-11, 11:52
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-10, 17:55
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
dhw,
2018-10-10, 09:29
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-09, 17:40
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-08, 14:52
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-10-08, 06:07
- Evolution: materialism explanation doesn't work -
David Turell,
2018-10-07, 20:27
- Evolution: only genetics can design a bush of life - David Turell, 2019-06-26, 18:57
- Evolution: only genetics can design a bush of life -
David Turell,
2018-09-25, 22:21
- Evolution: only genetics can design a bush of life -
Balance_Maintained,
2018-09-25, 21:10
- Evolution: only genetics can design a bush of life -
David Turell,
2018-09-25, 17:44
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-31, 16:21
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
dhw,
2018-01-31, 14:10
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-30, 18:52
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
dhw,
2018-01-30, 12:44
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-29, 18:22
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
dhw,
2018-01-29, 13:53
- Evolution: common descent not shown by genetics -
David Turell,
2018-01-28, 20:02
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-28, 14:28
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
dhw,
2017-09-28, 12:58
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-27, 15:13
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
dhw,
2017-09-27, 10:51
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-26, 17:11
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
dhw,
2017-09-26, 12:06
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-25, 14:23
- Evolution: poisonous frog self-protection -
David Turell,
2017-09-21, 20:51
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
David Turell,
2017-08-28, 19:21
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
dhw,
2017-08-28, 13:19
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
David Turell,
2017-08-27, 20:01
- Evolution: hybridization is relatively common -
David Turell,
2017-08-26, 20:21
- Evolution: dinosaurs not as dominant as thought -
David Turell,
2017-08-10, 19:07
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-25, 13:20
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-24, 16:07
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-24, 13:20
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-23, 22:43
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-23, 09:27
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-22, 15:06
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
dhw,
2017-07-22, 10:47
- Evolution: an ability Darwin does not explain -
David Turell,
2017-07-21, 23:19
- Evolution: ancient sulfur-eating bacteria -
David Turell,
2019-02-08, 18:46
- Evolution: ancient sulfur-eating bacteria and carbon 12-13 -
David Turell,
2019-02-10, 00:42
- Evolution: the color of blood -
David Turell,
2019-04-27, 23:30
- Evolution: factors for speed of diversification -
David Turell,
2019-08-15, 22:13
- Evolution: factors for speed of diversification -
dhw,
2019-08-16, 08:45
- Evolution: factors for speed of diversification -
David Turell,
2019-08-16, 16:01
- Evolution: the influence of parasites -
David Turell,
2019-08-24, 19:02
- Evolution: teeth designed to last a lifetime - David Turell, 2019-09-27, 16:07
- Evolution: the influence of parasites -
David Turell,
2019-08-24, 19:02
- Evolution: factors for speed of diversification -
David Turell,
2019-08-16, 16:01
- Evolution: factors for speed of diversification -
dhw,
2019-08-16, 08:45
- Evolution: factors for speed of diversification -
David Turell,
2019-08-15, 22:13
- Evolution: the color of blood -
David Turell,
2019-04-27, 23:30
- Evolution: ancient sulfur-eating bacteria and carbon 12-13 -
David Turell,
2019-02-10, 00:42
- Evolution: earliest plants older than thought -
David Turell,
2017-03-15, 00:49
- Evolution: ancient sulphur-eating bacteria -
David Turell,
2016-11-30, 15:00
- Evolution: Computer simulations of mutations -
David Turell,
2015-06-08, 22:18
- Evolution: Micro vs. macroevolution -
Balance_Maintained,
2015-06-03, 07:40
- Evolution: Micro vs. macroevolution -
David Turell,
2015-06-02, 23:22
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-23, 14:36
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-22, 21:51
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-22, 08:27
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-20, 20:48
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-20, 19:33
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-19, 01:02
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-18, 22:41
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-17, 19:41
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-17, 12:26
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-16, 00:17
- Evolution: a different view -
Balance_Maintained,
2015-05-15, 17:47
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-14, 19:05
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-14, 13:46
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-13, 00:33
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-12, 22:42
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-11, 21:49
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-10, 21:49
- Evolution: a different view -
Balance_Maintained,
2015-05-10, 09:49
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-09, 21:53
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-09, 11:30
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-08, 02:06
- Evolution: a different view -
Balance_Maintained,
2015-05-07, 15:50
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-07, 15:13
- Evolution: a different view -
Balance_Maintained,
2015-05-07, 09:12
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-06, 22:18
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-05-06, 21:23
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-05, 00:15
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-02, 21:50
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-02, 21:40
- Evolution: a different view; convergence -
David Turell,
2015-05-01, 14:32
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-05-01, 02:49
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-04-30, 21:06
- Evolution: a different view -
David Turell,
2015-04-29, 18:51
- Evolution: a different view -
George Jelliss,
2015-05-21, 21:52
- Evolution: a different view - David Turell, 2015-05-22, 02:26
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits -
David Turell,
2018-11-16, 00:54
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits - David Turell, 2018-11-16, 02:02
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; jellyfish -
David Turell,
2018-12-03, 19:14
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; jellyfish -
dhw,
2018-12-04, 14:40
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; jellyfish -
David Turell,
2018-12-04, 18:44
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
David Turell,
2018-12-04, 19:04
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
David Turell,
2020-10-01, 17:58
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
David Turell,
2020-10-02, 21:31
- Evolution: possible origin of apoptosis -
David Turell,
2020-10-05, 23:38
- Evolution: moles strange heterosexuality -
David Turell,
2020-10-08, 19:53
- Evolution: complexity, protein language & information - David Turell, 2020-10-09, 19:49
- Evolution: a mechanism of apoptosis -
David Turell,
2022-02-17, 19:39
- Evolution: more convergence - David Turell, 2022-02-19, 15:45
- Evolution: moles strange heterosexuality -
David Turell,
2020-10-08, 19:53
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
David Turell,
2020-10-10, 19:09
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
dhw,
2020-10-11, 13:02
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth - David Turell, 2020-10-11, 15:35
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
dhw,
2020-10-11, 13:02
- Evolution: possible origin of apoptosis -
David Turell,
2020-10-05, 23:38
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
David Turell,
2020-10-02, 21:31
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
David Turell,
2020-10-01, 17:58
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; jellyfish - dhw, 2018-12-05, 11:45
- Evolution: the presence of life evolves the Earth -
David Turell,
2018-12-04, 19:04
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; jellyfish -
David Turell,
2018-12-04, 18:44
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; jellyfish -
dhw,
2018-12-04, 14:40
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; more Behe -
David Turell,
2019-01-02, 23:33
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; more Behe -
dhw,
2019-01-03, 10:29
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; more Behe -
David Turell,
2019-01-03, 19:04
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-04, 19:17
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-05, 12:52
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-05, 15:13
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-06, 10:44
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-06, 18:54
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-07, 11:42
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-08, 22:10
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-09, 12:18
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-09, 15:28
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-10, 13:26
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-10, 19:39
- Evolution: a different view with loss of complexity - David Turell, 2019-01-11, 00:42
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-11, 12:59
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments - David Turell, 2019-01-11, 22:45
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-10, 19:39
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-10, 13:26
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-09, 15:28
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-09, 12:18
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-08, 22:10
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-07, 11:42
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-06, 18:54
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2022-03-27, 17:09
- Evolution: losing legs to make a snake - David Turell, 2022-03-28, 20:38
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-06, 10:44
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-05, 15:13
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
dhw,
2019-01-05, 12:52
- Evolution: a different view with loss of DNA segments -
David Turell,
2019-01-04, 19:17
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; more Behe -
David Turell,
2019-01-03, 19:04
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe - David Turell, 2020-05-20, 15:31
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-01, 17:29
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-02, 11:36
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-02, 20:50
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-03, 11:32
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-03, 19:43
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-04, 09:25
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-04, 18:24
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-05, 11:06
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-05, 19:35
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-06, 12:22
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-06, 15:11
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-07, 14:38
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-07, 15:47
- Evolution: viruses critical role - David Turell, 2020-09-07, 18:50
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-08, 12:13
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-08, 15:58
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-09, 07:36
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-09, 22:47
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-10, 12:51
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-10, 21:13
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-11, 14:12
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-11, 22:18
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-12, 12:51
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-12, 19:14
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-13, 12:56
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-13, 18:49
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-14, 13:57
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-14, 19:00
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-15, 12:01
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-15, 15:23
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-16, 11:01
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-16, 19:23
- Evolution: vertebrate driving genes; not Behe - David Turell, 2020-09-16, 20:40
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-17, 10:34
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-17, 18:54
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe - dhw, 2020-09-18, 11:09
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-17, 18:54
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2021-02-18, 01:53
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2021-02-18, 11:19
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2021-02-18, 16:04
- Evolution: Cambrian animal start defined -
David Turell,
2021-11-04, 13:44
- Evolution: strange changes in DNA form - David Turell, 2021-11-06, 14:15
- Evolution: giant aquatic arthropods 470 mya - David Turell, 2022-12-13, 17:25
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2022-01-05, 21:06
- Evolution: mass extinctions relate to volcanos - David Turell, 2022-02-01, 15:25
- Evolution: sudden change from a gene loss - David Turell, 2022-02-16, 19:37
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe - David Turell, 2022-05-02, 19:51
- Evolution: Cambrian animal start defined -
David Turell,
2021-11-04, 13:44
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2021-02-18, 16:04
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2022-08-10, 22:58
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2022-09-23, 19:15
- Evolution: more advances related to more microRNA -
David Turell,
2022-12-16, 21:54
- Evolution: hybridization in ants -
David Turell,
2022-12-21, 21:03
- Evolution: can natural forces drive evolution -
David Turell,
2023-10-04, 19:44
- Evolution: strange animals don't have to eat: -
David Turell,
2023-10-05, 19:54
- Evolution: the angiosperm gap -
David Turell,
2023-10-05, 20:34
- Evolution: the angiosperm gap -
David Turell,
2023-10-27, 19:30
- Evolution: how the complex cell formed -
David Turell,
2023-10-29, 17:02
- Evolution: how bacteria use essential amino acids -
David Turell,
2023-11-23, 17:30
- Evolution: bacteria pass information through generations -
David Turell,
2023-11-23, 18:09
- Evolution: is it predictable? -
David Turell,
2024-01-30, 18:44
- Evolution: new stromatolites in Saudi Arabia -
David Turell,
2024-06-01, 18:03
- Evolution: Lamarck is back -
David Turell,
2024-06-04, 22:14
- Evolution: Darwin's abominable mystery again -
David Turell,
2024-06-14, 16:53
- Evolution: the role of viral DNA -
David Turell,
2024-07-19, 20:06
- Evolution: the origin of a nervous system - David Turell, 2024-08-13, 21:18
- Evolution: the role of viral DNA -
David Turell,
2024-07-19, 20:06
- Evolution: Darwin's abominable mystery again -
David Turell,
2024-06-14, 16:53
- Evolution: Lamarck is back -
David Turell,
2024-06-04, 22:14
- Evolution: new stromatolites in Saudi Arabia -
David Turell,
2024-06-01, 18:03
- Evolution: is it predictable? -
David Turell,
2024-01-30, 18:44
- Evolution: bacteria pass information through generations -
David Turell,
2023-11-23, 18:09
- Evolution: how bacteria use essential amino acids -
David Turell,
2023-11-23, 17:30
- Evolution: how the complex cell formed -
David Turell,
2023-10-29, 17:02
- Evolution: the angiosperm gap -
David Turell,
2023-10-27, 19:30
- Evolution: the angiosperm gap -
David Turell,
2023-10-05, 20:34
- Evolution: strange animals don't have to eat: -
David Turell,
2023-10-05, 19:54
- Evolution: can natural forces drive evolution -
David Turell,
2023-10-04, 19:44
- Evolution: hybridization in ants -
David Turell,
2022-12-21, 21:03
- Evolution: more advances related to more microRNA -
David Turell,
2022-12-16, 21:54
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2022-09-23, 19:15
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2021-02-18, 11:19
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-16, 19:23
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-16, 11:01
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-15, 15:23
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-15, 12:01
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-14, 19:00
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-14, 13:57
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-13, 18:49
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-13, 12:56
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-12, 19:14
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-12, 12:51
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-11, 22:18
- Evolution: how viruses might fit in - David Turell, 2021-04-25, 17:17
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-11, 14:12
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-10, 21:13
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-10, 12:51
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-09, 22:47
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-09, 07:36
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-08, 15:58
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-07, 15:47
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-07, 14:38
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-06, 15:11
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-06, 12:22
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-05, 19:35
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-05, 11:06
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-04, 18:24
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-04, 09:25
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-03, 19:43
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-03, 11:32
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
David Turell,
2020-09-02, 20:50
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; not Behe -
dhw,
2020-09-02, 11:36
- Evolution: a different view with loss of traits; more Behe -
dhw,
2019-01-03, 10:29
- Evolution: a different view -
dhw,
2015-04-29, 13:18