A Panpsychist Hypothesis (General)
DHW: If I believed in God (and remember, I neither believe nor disbelieve), I would accept that he is a person like no other person, we are a tiny portion of what he is, he is enormously powerful etc. A)We can't create universes or life or the mechanisms of evolution, and so those claims would be entirely credible. But B) I still wouldn't understand how he could know all about matter before matter exists, and so I would ask myself if this might possibly indicate that like ourselves, C)he fulfills the potential of his intelligence by gathering information and learning as he goes along.- A) We can not even conceive their complexity or elegance, much less create it ourselves.-B) Because he designed the rules that govern it, perhaps. I mean, if you were creating a car you could conceive and design it long before you implemented it.-C) Possible, no way to know. -DHW:) A)I might even ask myself what he might have done with his self-consciousness for all of eternity before turning his energy particles into matter. I would not dismiss such questions or their possible answers as a mistake, a non-starter, illogical, anthropomorphic. B) And I would even think it possible that he made my consciousness in the image of his own, and that wonderful things like love, empathy, and logical thinking might be part of our shared consciousness. But of course C) that is the curse of the agnostic. He will insist on keeping his mind open.- A) Perhaps it was spent working out all the details before he implemented them.-B) Of course it is, and some of us believe there is actually a "How To" book... some believe there are several...-C) No, your curse is that you can't believe without seeing, that you demand evidence, that you have no faith; not in science, and not in god. Personally, I think I would rather believe and be wrong than not believe, whether I was right or not.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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