A Panpsychist Hypothesis (General)

by GateKeeper , Wednesday, June 18, 2014, 12:43 (3813 days ago) @ David Turell

dhw: But you are offering us the seemingly illogical premise that your first cause pure energy already had the information necessary to create the materials of universe and life before it had even experienced its own transformation into matter. 
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> Whoa! My first cause energy is God, and God is not matter. Matter is the stuff that appered after God used the information to instruct the first particles how to form and join together to create the first matter.
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> > dhw: However, you have in recent posts acknowledged two possible scenarios which you preferred to dismiss earlier: 1) that your pure energy God may have experimented, 
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> The experimentation I suggested might have occurred was during evolution, a path God chose for the development of humans.
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> > dhw: 2) that he may have created universes prior to this one.
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> If God has been around forever, then he, more than likely, has created universes before.
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> > dhw: That at least would get you out of the impossible dream of a DVD loaded with information before the information exists. 
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> The information exists with God within his intelligence. It is obvious that life uses a massive amount of information. It didn't develop by chance.
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> > dhw:But of course if you agree that your God had to learn as he went along, you will find yourself in the difficult position of acknowledging that his intelligence is not unlike our own: potential rather than actual, until it gains information and learns how to use it. And once you agree to that, you could find yourself on the slippery slope to my panpsychist hypothesis. Ah, Heaven forbid!
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> It is your slope, not mine, and a sloppy, slimey, slippery one at that.-to an ant you are around for ever and very smart. It would seem you both have logical conclusions if ya just change some base faith statements.