A Panpsychist Hypothesis (General)

by David Turell , Saturday, June 21, 2014, 15:32 (3591 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: I could not have put it better myself. Consciousness without information is only potential intelligence. If eternal energy was the first cause (i.e. nothing else existed before it), even if it was conscious, it could not have become intelligent without information. So where did the information come from, to enable it to make a universe and life? Earlier you wrote: "Pure energy invented its own intelligence? Illogical." Now apparently pure energy invented its own information, and that's how it became intelligent. Logical? -I have developed my concept of God as a universal consciousness by working backward from our knowledge of the universe and of the attribues of life. You are questioning my invention which has intellignce and information all at the same time, all eternal. And, yes, to accept that requires faith.
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> dhw: That is the same as saying he already has the information about matter before any information about matter is available. You call it counterintuitive. I call it illogical.-Thomas Edison made his inventions by trial and error, but he used information about the material things he dealt with in moving forward. I find your point illogical.
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> dhw: Why is there a need for faith? why do you "need" to choose one illogical hypothesis in preference to another?-Simple: I have a conclusion that fits the known facts as I see them. That conclusion, which I reached over a number of years of reading, feels good to me, and I have faith that I am right. It is OK that you cannot do that.