A Panpsychist Hypothesis (General)
GK: If the universe "learned" it may have been "child like". We are in its image? > > DAVID: I think we are in the image of the universal consciousness, which I view as God, in the fact that we have our own consciousness, simple as that. How much that consciousness had to learn is the debate I'm having with DHW. > > A couple of weeks ago, David, you dismissed the idea that your God had to learn, because it made him indecisive and dithering. You then dismissed the parallel with our own intelligence - "a potential that develops accumulatively through experience of things that already exist" ... because it was "an anthropomorphic analysis". Now you are saying that our own consciousness is in the image of the universal consciousness ... in which case, if we reflect your God, your God must reflect us, and an anthropomorphic analysis is a perfectly reasonably one to make. HOW MUCH he had to learn is one more admission on your part that he had to learn, from which we can proceed from your hypothesis - of first cause energy always being conscious and in possession of the necessary information - to my alternative panpsychist hypothesis that first cause energy may not have become conscious until matter gave it something to be conscious of, thereby kickstarting the learning process.-lmao It seems that even us perfect people, like the Gater-god, still can learn.-the bible is right. we are in its image. shush now, I know you guys don't like the bible. But for 2000 years ago? Eistien just aint that impressive to me. Base on what albie knew before he did what he did. Jesus was betting his life. albie was betting nothing. he was in a office job for the rest of his life if he didn't do something, anything.-then he dumped is wife and kid.
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