Light and Matter: another view (Origins)

by David Turell , Monday, June 02, 2014, 14:54 (3608 days ago) @ dhw

dhw: (quote from Wikipedia): It is believed that few milliseconds after the big bang the Universe was in a Quark-Gluon Plasma state.[/i]
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> Hypothesized...thought to...it is believed...Previously you have listed electrons, plasma and photons as "pure" examples, but these have turned out to be debatable, and the question remains whether the building blocks of matter are themselves material or, as you claim, "pure energy".-The current theory is that they are pure energy. Electrons, photons, and the plasma I mentioned previously and now identified Quark-gluon plasma are all elementary energy particles. Note there are others. Please carefully read the article I've referred several times about the elementary energy particles:-http://profmattstrassler.com/articles-and-posts/particle-physics-basics/the-known-apparently-elementary-particles/-Note the masses are in GeV's, energy measurments.-
> dhw: Earlier, in response to a blog which you recommended as "the whole outline of our universe's history", I asked in all seriousness if your God was a "metastable false vacuum which deliberately transformed its virtual particles into a vacuum bubble". You didn't answer. Now perhaps I should ask if he is a QGP.-I didn't answer, because an answer is knowingly impossible: I have no serious answer to your un-serious question. No one can know if an eternal intelligence has a recognizable form or structure.-> dhw: I'm not trying to make a point ... I'm seeking clarification, because the process is so central to the first cause energy concept, whether that first cause is conscious or not. -Whether first cause is conscious energy or not cannot be proven by any experiment testing the current theories. Recognizing by current fully established findings that elementary energy particles coalesced to make matter is fully established, except in your mind, is the curent discussion issue.- 
> dhw: Of course my remark about talking to a Planck concerned your insistence that pre-BB time is not necessary for your concept of God. I've elaborated on this in my response to Gatekeeper, and am still hoping he will help me with the pure-energy-makes-matter problem.-He should easily help.