Light and Matter (Origins)

by dhw, Sunday, June 01, 2014, 11:29 (3828 days ago) @ GateKeeper

GATEKEEPER: you are right. It is my fault, not yours. I am sorry. Also there is probably some "background noise" that I am unaware of.
David and I don't disagree on the "facts". We differ in the way we are using them. But that is because I came in late. I don't "prove" God. I would have to lean towards rom's stance on "proof" at this level.-(A procedural note: It would be very helpful if in your posts you would quote whatever you're responding to. This applies to all correspondents ... it is very difficult for the rest of us to follow discussions if we keep having to dodge back and forth between posts.)
 
I don't actually know what you're apologizing for, though it's very kind of you to do so! I am really the one who should apologize, because I have somewhat ungraciously turned down your offer to teach me all about quantum theory! As for "proof" of God, I think we all agree that it is not possible. We can only sift the evidence for and against, and form ... or in my case, not form ... a personal conclusion. What is then interesting is to exchange and test these ideas. Those who try to impose their conclusions on others soon disappear from this forum, but the rest of us continue to learn from one another. Or at least I do!-And so I'm still going to ask you for help, because I remain unhappy about the implications of the experiment with "pure light". You say you and David don't disagree on the "facts". Just to recap, the experiment aims to prove that "pure light/energy" can be transformed into matter, and since the experiment has not yet been carried out, I don't know where fact ends and theory begins. This process, however, as I understand it ... but he will correct me if I'm wrong ... is crucial to David's concept of God, and so my question to you, as a believer, is this: do you agree with David that God is pure, conscious energy which transformed itself into matter? Any reasons for your answer would be welcome.-(On a personal note, let me reassure you that David and I have been hammering away at each other for over six years, and are the best of friends! I even had the privilege of helping to edit his latest book.)