Language and Logic (General)
By claiming the two meanings are the same, Romansh is twisting language into a false logic, which is precisely the error I had hoped we could avoid. Romansh does not need such a tactic to make the case against free will, and since he agreed with much of what I wrote in my first post, I have to say I am deeply disappointed that he has now deliberately resorted to it! I shall have a little sob into my pillow. Good night, folks. > > Nowhere did I claim this dhw, I don't think this. > ->Romansh...from a previous post: If we don't have free will - morality is magical (akin to strong emergence). Or it is a completely made up attribute.-I did not say people can't be held responsible, actually quite the opposite. But in the same sense the sun is responsible for hurricanes. Are you denying the sun is responsible for a good chunk of the weather we get?- So, you are saying that people and the sun are responsible in the same way. So either they both have agency/free will, or neither of them do. Either they are both accountable for the deaths they cause, or neither is.
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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.
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dhw,
2014-04-01, 23:42
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romansh,
2014-04-02, 02:58
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-02, 04:51
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romansh,
2014-04-02, 05:24
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-02, 21:28
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-02, 23:07
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dhw,
2014-04-02, 23:36
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 02:48
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 05:34
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 05:57
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 06:03
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 06:08
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 06:12
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-03, 06:18
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romansh,
2014-04-04, 02:41
- Language and Logic - Balance_Maintained, 2014-04-04, 03:55
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 06:12
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 06:08
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David Turell,
2014-04-03, 06:06
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romansh,
2014-04-04, 02:53
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-04, 06:19
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-04, 02:53
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 06:03
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-03, 05:57
- Language and Logic -
dhw,
2014-04-03, 12:58
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romansh,
2014-04-04, 03:14
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-04, 04:17
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romansh,
2014-04-04, 17:17
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dhw,
2014-04-04, 18:53
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romansh,
2014-04-05, 23:29
- Language and Logic - dhw, 2014-04-06, 15:47
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-05, 23:29
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dhw,
2014-04-04, 18:53
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romansh,
2014-04-04, 17:17
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-04, 04:17
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romansh,
2014-04-04, 03:14
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 05:34
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 05:08
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 05:21
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 05:56
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 06:00
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 06:00
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-03, 05:56
- Language and Logic - GateKeeper, 2014-04-07, 20:50
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-03, 05:21
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romansh,
2014-04-03, 02:48
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-02, 21:28
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-02, 05:24
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Balance_Maintained,
2014-04-02, 04:51
- Language and Logic -
George Jelliss,
2014-04-06, 18:38
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dhw,
2014-04-07, 14:12
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George Jelliss,
2014-04-07, 23:05
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David Turell,
2014-04-08, 00:17
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dhw,
2014-04-09, 20:15
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David Turell,
2014-04-09, 21:11
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dhw,
2014-04-10, 19:47
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-10, 19:58
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dhw,
2014-04-10, 19:47
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David Turell,
2014-04-09, 21:11
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dhw,
2014-04-09, 20:15
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dhw,
2014-04-08, 15:49
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-08, 16:13
- Language and Logic -
George Jelliss,
2014-04-08, 19:25
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David Turell,
2014-04-08, 20:10
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romansh,
2014-04-09, 05:08
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David Turell,
2014-04-09, 06:20
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romansh,
2014-04-10, 02:58
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David Turell,
2014-04-10, 03:47
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romansh,
2014-04-12, 00:42
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 04:45
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romansh,
2014-04-12, 15:52
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 16:16
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romansh,
2014-04-12, 16:48
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 19:08
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romansh,
2014-04-12, 21:15
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 21:56
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-13, 16:23
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-13, 19:31
- Language and Logic -
dhw,
2014-04-14, 10:39
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-14, 15:23
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romansh,
2014-04-13, 16:23
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 21:56
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romansh,
2014-04-12, 21:15
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 19:08
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-12, 16:48
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 16:16
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romansh,
2014-04-12, 15:52
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David Turell,
2014-04-12, 04:45
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-12, 00:42
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David Turell,
2014-04-10, 03:47
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-10, 02:58
- Language and Logic -
David Turell,
2014-04-09, 06:20
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-09, 05:08
- Language and Logic - dhw, 2014-04-09, 20:23
- Language and Logic -
David Turell,
2014-04-08, 20:10
- Language and Logic -
David Turell,
2014-04-08, 00:17
- Language and Logic -
George Jelliss,
2014-04-07, 23:05
- Language and Logic -
dhw,
2014-04-07, 14:12
- Language and Logic -
GateKeeper,
2014-04-11, 21:13
- Language and Logic -
David Turell,
2014-04-12, 04:48
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GateKeeper,
2014-04-15, 01:02
- Language and Logic - David Turell, 2014-04-15, 05:18
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GateKeeper,
2014-04-15, 01:02
- Language and Logic -
David Turell,
2014-04-12, 04:48
- Language and Logic -
romansh,
2014-04-02, 02:58