God and Reality (The nature of a \'Creator\')
> Dhw:I asked the question because you dismissed the atheist idea of other universes as a poppycock device to avoid design. If the theory of other universes is plausible for you as a theist, because something must have preceded the Big Bang, you should grant that it is plausible for an atheist because something must have preceded the Big Bang. The fact that you don't need this plausible theory because you believe in God anyway is hardly a reason for dismissing the same plausible theory just because atheists need it!-You persist in missing my point. I don't need to imagine any other universes to support my theism. I only know this universe and what it shows me. Atheists have conjured up multiverses (with absolutely no way of proving them) to support their atheism theory.-> > dhw: It is not disbelief, and you have still not understood the distinction between disbelief and not believing. Theists and atheists disbelieve: you reject chance, and they reject God. I accept the possibility of chance, and I accept the possibility of God, and I accept the possibility of consciousness evolving. -I fully understand your position. It is an unwillingness to think outside your box. Reminds me of Schroedinger's cat.-> dhw: In The Sign of Four, Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes sums it up beautifully: "How often have I said to you that when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?" You and atheists are satisfied that you have distinguished between the impossible and the improbable, and you have come to diametrically opposite conclusions. I have not been able to make the distinction. For me, all three options remain improbable but not impossible.-I know the quote well. Loved to read about Holmes as a child. Are all three options equally improbable in your mind?
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