God and Reality (The nature of a \'Creator\')

by David Turell @, Saturday, June 22, 2013, 15:51 (3932 days ago) @ dhw


> dhw: I really don't know why you assume that each universe would have been designed to produce humans. We have no idea what other forms of life could have been produced, either by God, or by an infinite number of chance combinations, or by energy evolving awareness within different forms of changing matter. But the object of my reference to earlier universes was to point out the illogicality of the claim that atheists only propose other universes in order to avoid the design theory, although you as a theist accept that there must have been other universes!-The atheist position is to have a never-ending cycle of multiverses, always existing and popping in and out of existence like a mass of eternal soap bubbles. Gets rid of the Big Bang, gets rid of a designer universe concept, and trades fantasy for what we observe: an apparent creation of a universe which was designed to allow for life. Next step in my thought process: we can only suppose to extrapolate what we know. If God did this and is eternal, then He has done it over and over. Could He have tried other things. Sure, but we have no evidence as to what. You don't believe in God, but you want to imagine how adept He is?-> 
> dhw: I can't follow this. I did not invent panpsychism. The version that I have proposed suggests that energy evolved some sort of awareness within changing matter. -Exactly!!! You invented a way to put intelligence into matter, when none had prior existence. True pansychism leads to my theory of panentheism, God is everywhere and part of everything from the beginning as matter appeared.


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