Love me or else (Part Two) (Where is it now?)

by Balance_Maintained , U.S.A., Friday, January 11, 2013, 03:17 (4129 days ago) @ BBella


> > >Tony: ..In that depiction, what you refer to as 'All That Is' is nebulous, having no form, purpose, intelligence, personality, infinite and unknowable. God, Ain Soph, was the the product of self-realization, awakening to awareness, the prime movement, first thought, or first emination. In short, it is not so much that nothing was prior to God as much as it is that it is impossible to speculate upon it. Again, this is according to the Qabala and specifically to the Zohar Tradition. 
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> > > The Zohar explains the term "Ein Sof" as follows:
> > > "	Before He gave any shape to the world, before He produced any form, He was alone, without form and without resemblance to anything else. Who then can comprehend how He was before the Creation? Hence it is forbidden to lend Him any form or similitude, or even to call Him by His sacred name, or to indicate Him by a single letter or a single point. . . .But after He created the form of the Heavenly Man, He used him as a chariot wherein to descend, and He wishes to be called after His form, which is the sacred name 'YHWH'.[1]
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> >Bella: Then this creator God created a form (YHWH) for which he would use to communicate with the rest of the beings he would later create. Was this YHWH a being he communicates to or through? Is this similar to what this is saying?
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> .. I wondered if you think it is saying that YHWH was the embodiment of the creator - in the sense that the creator created himself a body with all remembrance of who he himself is so to relate with his soon to be created beings? Or, do you think it is saying that when the creator created YHWH, the heavenly being awakened as a clean vessel (like Adam) and the creator spoke to him and communicated to him his wishes? 
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I think of it in terms of becoming self aware, and the effect that self awareness has on reality. Let's put it this way: If a human's self awareness shapes their personal perspective of reality, what affect would self-awareness have on a being that is one with reality. Becoming YHWH was, as David says, energy organizing into thought, and thought becoming form. (If that makes sense at all. Hard to explain what I see in my own head.) I believe YHWH is a spiritual creature, not a physical one in any sense that we understand. You could conceive of it as shaping his spiritual being, I suppose, but that does not quite fit the meaning I am trying to convey.

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What is the purpose of living? How about, 'to reduce needless suffering. It seems to me to be a worthy purpose.