Love me or else (Part One) (Where is it now?)

by dhw, Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 16:42 (4112 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

TONY [Resurrection] will be an ongoing process.-Presumably this will be when all life on earth has been extinguished, or else there would be an ongoing intermingling of the living and the resurrected. Therefore it will be when God has got rid of the old earth and built the new earth. On this there will be no meat-eating, but I note that the new earth will also be without seas. I can't help feeling this will lead to a bit of a water shortage, not to mention the difficulty of growing fruit and veg. Does the bible give us any indication of what we're going to eat and drink?
 
TONY: There is supposed to be a time after the 1000 year reign of Christ where Satan is let loose again.-It's not clear to me when this 1000 year reign is to happen in relation to the ongoing resurrection, but you say that after it "we will have had the opportunity to learn the standard 100%." Would it then be right to assume that this is the period on new earth during which all of us will undergo our resurrection, including all pre-Christians and all Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Waga-Waga tribesmen, who will be taught the one and only truth, which is Christianity? (What else could it be, if Christ is the ruler?) Would it also be right to assume that capital crimes committed by our resurrected bodies, such as fornication, murder and agnosticism, will continue throughout the 1000 years? If not, when will they take place, and when exactly will we sinners be "immediately cut off"? Before and/or after the arrival of Satan? (I'm surprised you believe in him, but that's a different subject.)-TONY: YHWH's laws are laws of freedom, not restraint.-"Thou shalt not etc." = freedom, but I like your rider to this statement: "treat everyone/everything with perfect love and respect." That's practically all we need, isn't it? But unless God actually reveals himself directly to us all, and says: "This is me, folks, the one and only true Christian God," I find capital punishment rather drastic if our Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist and Waga-Waga friends, and especially poor old dhw, persist in their unbelief. However, your next comment answers that:-TONY: It has been remarked that in a perfect government, the government has a monopoly on force, and the sole mission of protecting the populace from the use of force.-If your mission is to protect the populace from the use of force, and you have a monopoly on force, your mission can only be to protect the populace from your own misuse of force. And if you have a monopoly, you alone decide what constitutes the use or misuse of force. A great recipe for "perfect government" and for tyranny. God, once he has tied Satan up again (wonderful how he can tie him up and set him free whenever he feels like it ... or is he going to "cut him off" too?) will have the monopoly. You go on to say: "I would rather have the judge with millennia of experience, infinite compassion, understanding, and wisdom wielding the hammer." Well, who wouldn't? But even if he does NOT have infinite compassion, understanding and wisdom by your standards or mine, as indicated by the title of this thread, he still has the monopoly. Regardless of translators' disagreements, Peter's "Fear God" has a powerful foundation. However, faith is faith, and my self-appointed task on this thread is to find out about "the logistics" of your resurrection theory!