Why is there anything? (Introduction)

by xeno6696 @, Sonoran Desert, Monday, April 02, 2012, 16:42 (4596 days ago) @ David Turell


> > Here's the kicker: There's no such thing as being "outside" the universe. The universe IS existence. The only alternative to existence is non-existence. 
> 
> Of course the universe is existence, as WE see it. The universe is expanding, into what? Complete nothingness, non-existence; agreed
> > 
> -No... not agreed.-You just walked right on by my point...-If the universe is expanding into "nothing," then you're arguing that "nothing" is "something." Implicitly, you're giving "nothing" the attribute of "space." Space itself only exists as part of the universe. So no, the universe isn't expanding into anything because then you're saying that existence expands into something that doesn't exist. This is a logical absurdity. You're conflating "Nothing" as in the sense "the new fridge has nothing in it" with nonexistence, which is a completely different kind of "nothing." -Is void a vacuum of space, David, or is it a solid?-More on the rest of your post, later.

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\"Why is it, Master, that ascetics fight with ascetics?\"

\"It is, brahmin, because of attachment to views, adherence to views, fixation on views, addiction to views, obsession with views, holding firmly to views that ascetics fight with ascetics.\"


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