Fundamentalism (General)

by David Turell , Thursday, November 06, 2008, 17:20 (5859 days ago) @ Walter

I find it disturbing that Carl thinks the "most notable" thing about the invasion of Iraq was the incompetence of US leadership, and David supported the invasion but says the "post-war handling was atrocious". It seems that in principle you are both in favour of your government lying to its people and the rest of the world (about WMD and Al-Quaeda), and invading another country in order to get at its oil or, according to Carl, to take revenge against one man, so long as its done competently. - Walter: Although we disagree, you raise a good point. We cannot police the world with the UN. It hasn't worked. We have a society of nations. Should there be rules and policing as in any society to set norms of behavior? We do it at the individual citizen level, but how about the international level? I don't think that will work because each nation has its own national interests that come first. The EU is a great example. This is why I have rasied the issue of just how civilized are we as humans. The hunter-gatherer period is not that long ago for most of us. There is still a kill or be killed, stick with your own kind mentality which underlies every emotional problem. I'd like to hear if you have any answer for this. I don't, except the usual one, keep talking, keep negotiating ,and look what happened to Neville Chamberlain. - As for Carl's comment about oil: 20% of USA oil is self-produced, 60% comes from the Western Hemisphere, and only 20% from the Middle East. That is strong evidence that oil was not the reason.