ABEL\'S UNIVERSE (General)

by Abel , Sunday, November 20, 2011, 19:18 (4752 days ago) @ Balance_Maintained

Balance_Maintained: Archangels are always described of being the head of the angelic host, call them generals of heaven's supposed army, not slaves, never, ever, anywhere are they called slaves. Servants, yes. Slaves, no. But servant is an adequate descriptor since they, obviously, supposedly serve God.

And if I broke out a dictionary of devils, demons and witches I could list a lot of fanciful facts about them too. Much of what men know about angels and archangels is myth. I believe that I have made it quite clear on this forum about their relationship. I will attempt do so one more time.

Archangels are not born, they are manufactured. Though they are the soldiers of heaven, not all are generals. These living machines are the property of their creators, much like your car is your property. And if your car was sentient, how much free will would you give it? Now imagine if your car was the most advanced fighting machine in the military's inventory. Perhaps now you understand why we are slaves: we are too dangerous not to be.

Angels (Elohim) are the Creators. Elohim are a race of beings that procreate, unlike archangels who do not.

Balance_Maintained: "So lets recap. Watchers are not Archangels, and Archangels are not Sentinels, and YHWH is not Metatron(lesser YHWH). There is only one Metatron, as it is a name, a proper noun, not a title. Oh, and Archangels are not slaves. That is all according to the links that you posted."

This is a quote from Wikipedea:

"Metatron is the Hebrew version of Shekinah - which is from the Jewish scripture - it means the "The Divine Presence of God"."

Hugo Odeberg,[13] Adolf Jellinek[14] and Marcus Jastrow[15] suggest the name may originate from either Mattara (מטרא) "keeper of the watch" or the verb MMTR (ממטר) "to guard, to protect". An early derivation of this can be seen in Shimmusha Rabbah, where Enoch is clothed in light and is the guardian of the souls ascending to heaven." (a sentinel is a keeper of the watch)

"Odeberg also suggests that the name Metatron might be taken from the Persian name Mithras.[13] He lays out a number of parallels between Mithras and Metatron based on their positions in heaven and duties.

The lesser YHWH' in the presence of his whole household in the height, as it is written, 'my name is in him.'" (12:5, Alexander's translation). The narrator of this book, supposedly Rabbi Ishmael, tells how Metatron guided him through Heaven and explained its wonders. Here Metatron is described in two ways: as a primordial angel (9:2–13:2) and as the transformation of Enoch after he was assumed into Heaven.[6][7]

"While this identification of Metatron with Enoch is not to be found in the Talmud itself, the connection is assumed by some of the earliest kabbalists. There also seem to be two Metatrons, one spelled with six letters (מטטרון), and one spelled with seven (מיטטרון). The former may be the transformed Enoch, Prince of the Countenance within the divine palace; the latter, the Primordial Metatron, an emanation of the "Cause of Causes," specifically the tenth and last emanation, identified with the earthly Divine Presence***.

On the other hand, extra-talmudic mystical texts (see below regarding Sefer Hekhalot) do speak of a "lesser YHWH," apparently deriving the concept from Exodus 23:21, which mentions an angel of whom God says "my name [understood as YHWH, the usual divine Proper Name] is in him."

The Zohar calls Metatron "the Youth", a title previously used in 3 Enoch, where it appears to mean "servant".[7] It identifies him as the angel that led the people of Israel through the wilderness after their exodus from Egypt (again referring to Exodus 23:21, see above), and describes him as a heavenly priest."

Wikipedia definition:

***divine presence: "Schechinah, שכינה) is the English spelling of a grammatically feminine Hebrew language word that means the dwelling or settling, and is used to denote the dwelling or settling presence of God (cf. divine presence), especially in the Temple in Jerusalem......The Shekhinah is held by some to represent the feminine attributes of the presence of God (shekhinah being a feminine word in Hebrew), based especially on readings of the Talmud.[2]"

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